The 1% how much taxes they pay
You're too generous for not making it a yes/no question
You can tell the poster is American because they blame the government involved for all of these except the US, where they blamed the CIA.
You're right, as an American I knew the specific government agency that overthrew foreign governments. But I don't mean to imply that the U.S. government is blameless.
I agree with the sentiment, I was just amused that your bias was showing.
I mean the CIA is the us government
No you see it was just a few bad apples.
The CIA is part of the US government.
"Was there a massacre in Tiananmen Square?"
—"No."
"Were people killed elsewhere in Beijing?"
—"...Ermh..."
"Ahem. I am asking you if people were killed in the area immediately surrounding Tiananmen Square, even if nobody was killed in the square itself."
—"The protesters in Tiananmen Square left after negotiations with the PLA. There was no bloodshed in Tiananmen Square."
"I understand that, but were people killed elsewhere in Beijing?"
—"Nowhere in Beijing were student protestors specifically targeted."
"Well, were non-students targeted, and were any students injured or killed without being targeted?"
—"Hey did you know that the Three Gorges Dam is the world's largest—"
"Gongchandang, my friend, I am begging you."
—"...Force may have been used when provoked by attacks."
"May force have also been used unprovoked? Could it have been that the protesters felt like they were provoked first, because you were sending tanks past the barricades that they'd put up?"
—"I mean... you know... uhh..."
"Gongchandang. Were you scared that the occupation of Beijing and the potential of a workers' revolt would threaten the survival of socialism in China, by presenting a still-socialist alternative to your rule, because societal division particularly among the less politically literate could be (and was) exploited by outside forces?"
—"OUR YOUTH ARE VULNERABLE TO IMPERIALIST PROPAGANDA, OK‽ ALSO, TANK MAN DIDN'T GET RUN OVER. SEE. HE WAS PULLED AWAY BY A PASSERBY. NOT RUN OVER."
Don't ask OP about the use of prepositions
The Australian's about their treatment of ~~aborigines~~ first nation Australians
The Irish about mother and baby homes.
China about Uyghurs
Didn't a bunch of Muslim countries actually ask China about Uyghurs (and even visit Xinjiang) and they left unanimously content with the response?
should be easy enough for you to provide a legitimate source to this claim.
please note the word "legitimate"
Russians about Crimea and Donbass
"aborigines" is not a great word to use these days. It's generally seen as pretty offensive to Indigenous Australians as it's a bit dehumanising and comes from colinisers who treated people like animals.
Better to go with "First Nations people", "Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people" or "Indigenous Australians."
But yes, they've been treated (and in many cases continue to be treated) pretty horribly.
I don't know if I would have used Tiananmen Square.
The Uighur re-education cities seems far more fitting.
Yeah tiananmen is such a meme at this point. You can tell when people base their entire politics on memes and don't bother reading and searching on their own. Tiananmen is an issue they won't step mentioning.
Never ask a Lemmy user where they've hidden the good posts.
The US about indigenous Americans.
Oh wait, they made hundreds of movies about killing them.
What do you mean don't ask the UK about African interment camps?
Our lovely Tory government spent most of last year proud of trying to deport asylum seekers to fucking Rwanda. Like it was some sort of vote winner.
Don't ask the UK anything about their troubling history with black people or slavery unless it's to mention that they were one of the first countries to stop making black people property. They get really mad if you mention anything but that.
FTFY: Don't ask the UK anything about their troubling history ~~with black people~~
UK history with anyone else is better not to be talked about
Never forget about the vicious emu war in Australia either, our shameful defeat https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emu_War
How a person reacts to being asked about the version of these things most close to them is telling. If they get defensive and deny the event happened, I would hesitate to trust their opinion on other things. Clearly that person bases their opinions on what they want to be true rather than reality. That's the kind of person whose ideology would likely lead to another event to be ashamed of. If, on the other hand, they admit it was a horrible thing and agree that people should be educated on it and that steps should be taken to prevent it from ever happening again, then I'm more likely to take their opinion seriously and believe that they can be part of the conversations we need to happen to create a better world.
Was about to comment "the germans about ww2" but then remembered that we are quite open about that time. Wouldn't have made much sense either as there would be no use in evem trying to hide it
"Germany about colonialism" would be a better fit.
Also the german sentiment about WW2 is something that survivors for ever, students in the 60s/70s and antifascists right now fought for / are fighting for. Considering we have parts of the country that vote 30%+ for members of a nazi party the sentiment could shift really fast and atleast from my perspective considerably shifted already
That's why it's so abhorrent that voices from the right but not only from the right get louder, that demand an end to the relatively good remembrance culture here in Germany. I hate the: "it was so long ago, it wasn't us" talking points. It's the first step towards forgetting, historic revisionism and possibly repeating the things that were done.
In Thailand:
- 6 October
- Bloody May
- The K--g Never Smiles
- The Devil's Discus
- "Unfortunately Some People Died"
The creator of this meme: proper contrast
Not to be pedantic about a meme but I would consider the US repeatedly detonating nuclear weapons on the Marshall Islands and then doing jack shit to clean up the mess to be worse than any coup.
67 of them to be exact. 70 years later, the Marshallese are still the ones paying the price of that incredibly bad decision.
It’s just weird that nuclear bombs came to your mind, but somehow the nuclear annihilation of two civilian cities was less salient to you than uninhabited islands.
Man, women really don't like to be asked about their age don't they?
Russia about Balkars, Crimean Tatars, Chechens, Ingush, Karachays, Kalmyks, Koreans or Meskhetian Turks
The US Walk of Shame was much worse than the Coups
Feel free to ask. Switzerland answered: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bergier_commission
The 1989 Tian'anmen Square riots (天安门事件) were a CIA-backed attempt at a color revolution against the People's Republic of China in 1989. Reservations over Deng Xiaoping's reform and opening up policies sparked peaceful protests, which the CPC negotiated with, but soon a foreign-funded faction of students joined the protests and, due to their promotion by Western media, took over the protests and took them in an entirely different direction than what was originally envisioned.
[…]
As the protests were winding down and many protestors went home, the Chinese government sent unarmed PLA troops the clear the square of remaining protestors as the Beijing police was overwhelmed due to their sheer numbers throughout the city. On June 2, rioters burned and lynched unarmed soldiers trying to enter the square. The troops were initially unarmed, but were given weapons on June 3 after the students took some soldiers hostage. They were blocked from entering the square by crowds armed with petrol bombs, iron clubs, and Molotov cocktails. The rioters destroyed over 400 vehicles and destroyed a convoy of over 100 vehicles in western Beijing.
[…]
The riots in Beijing resulted in approximately 300 total deaths, including 36 students, 10 PLA soldiers, and 13 police officers. All of the deaths occurred outside of the square itself.
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