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[-] LadyMeow 82 points 1 month ago

Why the FUCK would I want to be living in space? Bitch, the food air water and gravity are HERE.

[-] markz@suppo.fi 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

But in space amazon can own them!

[-] GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 9 points 1 month ago

Because tech billionaires can charge money for all of that in space!

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

that's the main reason they actually hope they can do it. it fucking bothers them so much that they can't charge you for breathing.

[-] DBT@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

NGL I want off this planet.

[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 5 points 1 month ago

I like this planet, they can fuck off.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 1 month ago

I want off this planet onto a different earth-like planet in another star system, but even the most delusional billionaire doesn't think that we'll have access to other systems anytime soon.

[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

There's nowhere else to go.

The Earth is the only world known so far to harbor life. There is nowhere else, at least in the near future, to which our species could migrate. Visit, yes. Settle, not yet. Like it or not, for the moment the Earth is where we make our stand.

Carl Sagan, Pale Blue Dot

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[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 48 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

"I believe, in the next couple of decades, there will be millions of people living in space. That's how fast this is going to accelerate," he said.

Jeff Bezos has been saying this stuff for a while. It's not clear whether he's just hyping his rockets, but he seems genuinely delusional and detached from reality. I remember an interview in which he was beside himself with enthusiasm for the idea that humanity was going to spread billions of people throughout the whole solar system. To most of us it's not clear why this is supposed to be a good thing, especially if these people will all be abused by mega corporations like Amazon. And it's utterly impossible. Besides, most people would prefer to do anything at all to try to save Earth from the ravages of capitalists like Bezos. But of course these techbro assholes prefer to live in sci-fi fantasies than actually have to pay their workers and their taxes and clean up their pollution.

[-] burble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 month ago

If he meant it, he would be pumping more resources into Blue Origin's Orbital Reef space station concept instead of sitting around and waiting for NASA to fund it. Vast is planning to launch a little 4 person private space station next year. Blue should have been way ahead of them.

[-] adespoton@lemmy.ca 32 points 1 month ago

Jeff, my boy: Newsflash — humanity has ALWAYS lived in space. We’ve got an awesome orbital station that manages food, climate, entertainment, and almost everything else we’ve ever needed.

Are you calling for us to abandon ship for an inferior product?

[-] RecallMadness@lemmy.nz 3 points 1 month ago

One wholly owned, serviced, and supplied by Amazon.

But don’t worry. Orbital Prime is only $999 a year and includes unlimited deliveries and six return trips to land. (For now)

[-] mech@feddit.org 3 points 1 month ago

swipe card
declined
oxygen pump shuts off

[-] TheV2@programming.dev 23 points 1 month ago

Why did Jeff Bezos not distribute his earthly posessions across the world to everyone already? He will live in space soon anyway.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

"Jeff bezos says" has the same level of legitimacy as people going "as a mother". Yeah he's rich but he's also mind numbingly stupid. Why do I care about anything he has to say because none of it is reasonable logical or relevant.

Is rocket doesn't even get above the karmen line and takes about six people at a time. How are millions of people even going to get into space with that kind of transport system?

[-] burble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago

Let's at least hate accurately. Blue Origin is working on a ton of stuff, just super slowly. Their orbital rocket, New Glenn, should have its 2nd launch in a few weeks. They're working on a space station, Orbital Reef, but I have no idea what the timeline is. They're also allegedly working on an orbital crew capsule, but that has almost zero public info.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I know about all the stuff he's working on but even if it all turns out to work the way he claims, it's not going to be able to transport millions of people into space over the next few years.

If we take the next few years to mean a decade from now then maybe will be at a point where extremely rich billionaires can pay to spend a weekend space on orbital reef or something similar. But I can't imagine will be at the point of millions of people being in space on a semi-permanent basis, not within a decade, maybe within 50 years depending on how SpaceX fair with starship, but that stretching the definition of soon a bit far.

Elon musk said that starship might be able to transport 100 people at a time, which is musk speak for 15 people. But let's say it can transport 100 people at a time, it can get to the moon and back again within 6 days, and they have multiple ships so that they can launch pretty much continuously with one launch every 24 hours. That sounds far fetched but it is remotely reasonable so let's go with it.

Assuming we were already at that level of capability to transport 1 million people to the moon with that method would take nearly 28 years to complete. So we'd be looking at 2048 as the date that 1 million people would be on the moon. But we don't have that capability yet so there's also however much lead time we would need to get to that point.

So even if we started now, as in today, it would be nearly the middle of the century before we achieved his goal, yeah that's not Soon™

[-] burble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

Agreed, but your original 2nd paragraph made it seem like Blue is only doing New Shepherd. If Bezos wants a million people in space during his lifetime, he needs to be full speed ahead, "build it and they will come", on Orbital Reef modules, the rumored 7 seat New Glenn orbital capsule, lunar surface resource extraction and refinement... Massive investments in transportation, science, manufacturing, and tourism in cislunar space.

Instead, I'm guessing the progression will be more like:

  • Today: 10 people in orbit (the regular crew for ISS + Tiangong)
  • Record: 19 people in orbit (regular crew, second Soyuz, stranded Starliner crew, Dragon free flyer)
  • 5 years prediction: Break 20 (some mix of station crew handovers, Tiangong expansion, US commercial station/module, Gaganyaan, Mangzhou, Orion, Starship)
  • 10 years prediction: Break 50
[-] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 month ago

Hey Jeff, being good at buying something for a dollar and selling it for two doesn't mean you're a genius. Salesmen shouldn't be giving advice like that.

[-] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 16 points 1 month ago

I long for days when tech CEOs weren't so vocally obsessed with space, such that taking about space development could lead to interesting discussion of what a realistic timeframe actually is and what progress can be made, rather than just an assumption that one is a Musk or Bezos fanboy that actually believes we can do the work of centuries in 20 years somehow by giving the people that aready have too much money, even more money.

[-] sanguinepar@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Jeff Bezos ~~Says He~~ Doesn't Understand ~~Why Anybody Alive Now Would Be 'Discouraged'—Because Soon, 'Millions Of People Will Be Living In Space'~~

Fixed that headline.

[-] Pondis@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

He would make breathable air a subscription based service and I'm not for it.

[-] teft@piefed.social 13 points 1 month ago
[-] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

In Space!!

where slavery laws don't exist
[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 11 points 1 month ago

So, I'm not digging through all my comments to find it, but I've said a while back they're planning to take the money, colonize space and take enough regular people to be slaves and leave the rest of us here to deal with the mess they made.

God only knows the mess they can make here, while making a worse mess of Earth and maybe the galaxy.

[-] thegr8goldfish@startrek.website 5 points 1 month ago

So you're saying they're Gou'lds, then? Who has Stargate future on their doomsday bingo card?

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 3 points 1 month ago

Robert Heinlein or some other sci-fi writer wrote about it in the 60s or 70s, and the ruling class seems intent on using dystopian sci-fi as instruction manuals, so sure, pick your character from any tale.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago

goa'ulds have the luxury of using a stargate or a ha'tak to escape a planet when the people revolt. these fools think they have a spaceship to escape with.

[-] freeman@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

I mean, they are stupid cocaine-brained man-children, but it would be history's greatest fuckup to *choose * space over Earth. No matter how much we manage to fuck it up, it will always be more suitable for life than space or mars.

it will always be more suitable for life than space

Not always. Eventually, our sun will expand and render Earth too hot for life.

Do we need to leave Earth today? No. Do we need to leave Earth soon? No. Is it wise to make long-term plans? Yes.

[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 month ago

Obligatory: Mars for the Rich, King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard.

[-] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 9 points 1 month ago

Billionaries love to huff their petrid farts.

[-] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Probably because that doesn't pay for rent, gas, groceries, clothes, utilities, bills, or healthcare. Are you accepting "will live in space soon" as payment on your website, Jeff? No? Well fuck off then.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Unless I'm on a federation starship I don't want to live in space. I want to live on earth where my species belongs

[-] clot27@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 month ago

Billionaires are so delusional

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 1 month ago

isnt me or bezos is taking alot of PEDs right now. he doesnt want to be seen a scrawny tech ceo.

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

They're all into body modification. Musk is taking HGH and that's why his chest is like that.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

and some of them like thiel and bryan johnson, is spending millions a year on "life extending" pseudoscience treatments/research. bryan is a little more extreme than the others.

[-] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago

Ok sure but will I be able to afford food?

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 1 month ago

You will have a shock collar and like it.

[-] SPRUNT@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Millions of people.... On a planet of billions.

Wasn't there a Matt Damon movie about that?

[-] caoimhinr@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago
[-] brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 4 points 1 month ago

By upvoting this thread you are giving this guy visibility and not others

[-] FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 2 points 1 month ago

Well it’s frigging Bozo so trying to bury his presence won’t work.

On the other hand it is displaying all the anger and disdain towards him.

[-] FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 3 points 1 month ago

Okay Jeff. How about less talk, more New Glenn launches?

[-] DancingBear@midwest.social 2 points 1 month ago

Has he been taking steroids?

[-] Ladislawgrowlo@lemy.lol 1 points 3 weeks ago

Once they are inside a cooperate controlled moon-base, they will depend on their overlords for food and water shipments from earth. Space Feudalism?

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