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[-] prole 11 points 1 day ago

Remember how socialism is bad because bread lines?

[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

Reminder people: food banks exist with or without politics and whether or not federal workers get paid. They are essential to the survival of many people and families and are almost entirely privately run and maintained by volunteers.

If you want to make a very real difference in the lives of others, find where one is and bring them some things like socks, soap, toothbrushes and underwear, as well as canned meats or soups. It WILL get used and appreciated and it feels a lot better than you think it will knowing you fed a family or helped someone feel like a human again by giving them fresh socks to wear to work tomorrow. (A vast majority of people below the poverty line in the US are working and living in cars or tents.)

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago

It’s even better to just give them money because they can get better bulk deals than you.

[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Absolutely true, but in my experience I've gotten people to donate goods more easily than socks and canned food. It's a psychological thing in humans. I feel our population is so cynical that they assume any cash they hand over goes right into drugs and gambling. My dad was the kind of person who would buy you a new dishwashing machine after he learns you're behind on house payments, and keep the receipt so you can't return it.

If you don't have reservations about donating cash to food banks, then it's always going to do more good.

[-] webadict@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

The most important thing you can donate is money. The second most important thing you can donate is probably diapers, they LOVE diapers.

[-] Formfiller@lemmy.world 41 points 2 days ago

Food riots were one of the key factors that kicked off the French Revolution

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 73 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

In a civilized country these things simply wouldn't happen.
Not paying an employee is simply illegal, and If what is happening in USA now happened here, we have public funds guaranteeing any unpaid employee by any employer get their money. Usually used for private companies that go bankrupt.

USA is such a shitty country, their regulation is of the caliber that would only be expected of a very poor developing country that lack resources to do better.

I don't think most Americans are even close to understanding how shitty USA is as a country. It permeates everything because Americans accept their society to be shitty, because they kind of accept a minimal government that doesn't even work.

Having a country with a two party system that begs for stalemates, and then is incapable of handling a stalemate is such tremendous lack of foresight, I bet most kindergartens are run better.

[-] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 21 points 2 days ago

Not paying an employee is simply illegal, and If what is happening in USA now happened here, we have public funds guaranteeing any unpaid employee by any employer get their money. Usually used for private companies that go bankrupt.

Laws in most civilized countries simply say that if new budget is not passed in time the previous budget continues or default budget covering basic expenses (like federal workers salaries, bills etc.) is automatically created. Shutting down government is simply not an option.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

True, I have not heard of other countries that do what USA is doing with the shutdown.
Americans are such a bunch of amateurs on democracy, despite they were among the first to use it!
Or maybe because of it? They sorely need a major reform of their democracy. But it looks like it will probably be the wrong way to an even more authoritarian system.

[-] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The problem is that they were "early adopters" and created a system impossible to reform. Civil war was the perfect moment to do a major rewrite of the system. They had a human rights issue and their system proved completely unable to resolve it. Unfortunately instead of realizing it's broken and fixing it they did some minor changes and moved on. Now they have a constitution that is more of a holy book than legal document. No one understands it, the laws don't mean anything but it's sacred so it's impossible to even talk about changing it.

Yep, if a parliament fails to pass budget "Supply" legislation in Australia there's an automatic procedure that desolves the government and sends them to an election.

And the public hate elections. Do it to them out of sequence without good reason? You're not getting back in.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

And I guess all the ministers lose their seats, that would also be motivation to get it done.

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Hey I'll have you know as an American our kindergartens are run terribly as well, at least in poor school districts.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Sorry, my bad. 😋

[-] Witchfire@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

The US lacks the resources to do better because the vast majority of its wealth is being hoarded by dragons. The peasants get moldy bread.

[-] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 35 points 2 days ago

I don’t think most Americans are even close to understanding how shitty USA is as a country.

They're brainwashed from birth to believe they're the greatest country in the world. Most of them never question it. Those that do need years to overcome the beliefs embedded in their heads.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Yes American exceptionalism is pretty crazy.

The arrogance of calling a national championship "World Series" is a very clear example of that, and also calling the country America is another blatant example of exceptionalism.
It is this exceptionalism that makes Trump believe he can bully the rest of the world into submission. But all it will do is accelerate the fall of USA from being the de facto world leader.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_Series_champions

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[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This is the system republicans created and democrats cosigned. Republicans could at any moment dismiss the fillibuster and return these people to work but they've decided to let this happen to try and use media asymmetries to blame it on democrats in hopes they cave without negotiations.

Hopefully the democrats realize if they cave here they will never be elected again. Republicans will keep doing this until either they eliminate the fillibuster or they start caring about rules and the country so it makes sense for democrats to just hold the line and force some more permanent change in either republicans or the rules.

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[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 89 points 2 days ago

This is the conservative version of America.

Starting to think maybe everyone should have shown up and voted in the most likely way to prevent conservatives from having power. I know that's a lot to ask from Americans.

[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 54 points 2 days ago

But voting for Kamala would be bad for Palestine! Not voting was the only way to save Palestine! /s

[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 40 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

"I disagreed with Kamala on a single issue involving two nations on the opposite side of the planet, so I didn't vote for her and held the door open for fascists instead."

Yeah, not a bright bunch.

EDIT: Looks like 10 people so far have self identified as these dim bulbs. These are the people we need to worry about come 2026 and 2028. They're going to make the same mistake again, because learning isn't in their wheelhouse.

[-] prole 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'm not going to say I'm happy about her non-stance re: Palestine, but also, fuck anyone who didn't vote for her and allowed literal fascism.

[-] Katana314@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Theoretically, the argument would have been "Then vote in the primaries". Problem being, a lot of people have been betrayed on Democratic primaries. Bernie Sanders was shown as popular before, and they still nixed him as an option. People largely agreed Joe Biden was too old to run, and yet he was way too late to offer up Kamala as an option; skipping past any primary that would have given people other choices.

People want to demonstrate "their choice" is popular, and the Democrats have taken away that choice pretty consistently. To me, it's not enough to surrender a vote to fascism, but I think I understand the feeling.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

So very well said.

Some of them are still around here and have the fucking balls to pop up here and chastise people they have derisively labeled "liberals". They think they have the moral high ground. Even now. And, if it sadly comes to it, when everyone is being put into FEMA camps, I doubt they will admit their wrongdoing and will instead lecture people on things like "don't blame the voters". FFS. It's bonkers.

I know a few of this type IRL, too, unfortunately. No self awareness and no apologies. I think it's mostly narcissism, really. The ones online are possibly paid actors/bots put there to sow division.

[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Oh yeah. I know a few IRL as well. Like talking to a brick wall. These are people that want their fantasy scenario to become reality but don't grasp the actual reality we live in and also aren't willing to put in the hard work to make their fantasy a reality.

It's sad and these are the main people we have to worry about in the coming elections. We know we don't have to spend time trying to convince Trump supporters. They're cultists and they aren't changing. But to see these people who generally want the same things we want, but are completely out to lunch regarding how to achieve those things is just really depressing.

I'm crossing my fingers that things get so bad in the U.S. that these people wake up and do the right thing, at least for 2026 and 2028, but I'm not holding my breath.

[-] fxleak@lemmings.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

"I'm gonna keep voting for the lesser evil candidate and get mad when people don't fall in line to support their oppressors."

You guys are insane, and a bunch of pussies.

You've been conditioned to only focus on gridlock issues in a culture war to distract you from how we're all being robbed every day by the ownership class.

[-] roscoe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If you don't like that, and you shouldn't, show up to your local meetings regularly, not just two weeks before the primary, and encourage other like minded people to do so. Doing that allows you to get the better candidates recommended in the voting guide, canvas for them, phone bank for them, etc. I'll be there waiting. In my precinct it would only take 3-4 people to tip the balance from corpo Dems to progressives, and maybe even an actual leftist, for local office and state legislative candidates. Start local and trickle up.

Or if you're already doing that, thanks and keep doing it.

But until those efforts bear fruit, when faced with a binary choice please pick the less bad one.

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[-] fosho@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago

nah. we know we are being robbed by the ruling class. but that doesn't change which outcome is the obvious better choice in a binary system.

throwing your vote away for the presidential election will never solve that problem and you're a pretty obvious dufus for thinking that it will.

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[-] Witchfire@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

You're not enlightened because you would let your high horse trample your brethren. Touch grass.

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[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

You guys are insane, and a bunch of pussies.

Look. You aren't very smart. That's ok. You can change that if you want to. Allow me to explain to you how reality works.

In actual reality, unless you want a revolution (that isn't happening), you have to vote for the less shitty option to reduce harm (like we're experiencing RIGHT NOW), then work to reform that less shitty option by voting out the reps that aren't onboard with more progressive policies. This has been done numerous times throughout U.S. history and was just done, in the worst way possible, to the Republican party by conservative voters over the last decade or so.

And, just in case you're foolish enough to believe a random no-name 3rd party candidate can randomly win the presidency despite being a relative unknown whose party has exactly ZERO representatives in Congress, let me tell you, because you're probably completely clueless, that in 2024, the 3rd party candidate with the MOST votes got a whopping half of a single percent of the total votes cast, PROVING that no 3rd party candidate stands the remotest chance in hell of winning the presidency and that a vote for one is a vote flushed down the toilet and a pass for the shittier option to step into power, WHICH IS WHAT HAPPENED LESS THAN A YEAR AGO.

Seriously bud. You've got a brain. Start using it.

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[-] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 39 points 2 days ago

Look at that line. America is great again, everyone.

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