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Donald Trump warned Tuesday that if the Democrats don't approve funding, there are dangers to the future of Social Security and Medicare.

Trump said at a press conference that when he asked Democrats for feedback on the funding bills, one said, "It means death."

"There's nothing about death," Trump said. "Theirs is death because they're going to lose Medicaid, they're going to lose Social Security, they're going to lose Medicare, all of those things are going to be gone because the whole country would be bankrupt, and you're not going to have any kind of medical insurance."

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[-] kittybeer@lemmy.world 43 points 6 days ago

Why can't we have a no confidence vote and get rid of the party in charge?

[-] spicehoarder@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 days ago

Did they really not build a mechanism for us to collectively vote no confidence? I feel like they're abusing every trick in the book and nobody can find a way to stop it

[-] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 59 points 6 days ago

The president added of Democrats, "We will not be extorted on this crazy part of this. They've never done this before. Nobody has. You always vote for an extension."

JFC. Republicans do this every single time Democrats have control of Congress. And, every single time...Democrats give them what they want, in order to get a deal made. Now that Democrats are finally following the Republicans example, they fuckin' lose their shit, and everything falls apart.

[-] hraegsvelmir@ani.social 12 points 6 days ago

And idiots lap it up and moan about how the Schumer shutdown is going to impact their appointment at the doctor next month if all those crazy socialists, like Nancy Pelosi, don't listen to reason.

[-] G3NI5Y5@piefed.social 32 points 6 days ago

US entering the "third world country"-club. Congratulations.

[-] DNS@discuss.online 28 points 6 days ago

Bro, the US has been a 3rd world country masquerading as a 1st world country a lot longer than Trump. The US propaganda machine is top tier, fooling American citizens that theyre greatest enemy is each other, as well as promoting individualism at the cost of the individual.

Richest nation on earth yet the majority are 1 health emergency away from bankruptcy, to people skipping doctor visits due to how expensive our Healthcare is while the rest of the world gets to enjoy free healthcare. Wake the fuck up, "entering" like thanks for the depressing ass chuckle this morning.

[-] CircaV@lemmy.ca 15 points 6 days ago

There are almost 800,000 homeless in the US, you could have an entire city of just homeless people. US is already a 3rd world country. Has been for a long time now. ICE won’t even round them up cause even ICE doesn’t want to deal with them incarcerated.

[-] spicehoarder@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 days ago

Not to be that guy, but the first, second, third world naming scheme stems from racism and isn't based on any real statistics.

[-] toddestan@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

It's actually from the Cold War.

1st world = USA, NATO, and their allies. 2nd world = USSR, the Eastern Bloc and their allies (the 2nd world doesn't really exist anymore). 3rd world = anyone not in the 1st or 2nd categories.

You are right though it's not about any real statistics. It's about political alignment.

[-] spicehoarder@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 days ago

Yep, right, which kind of also inherently excludes most non-white countries from the top two tiers.

Whether it was intentional or not, it definitely didn't help the image of non-white countries.

[-] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 17 points 6 days ago

"I have to help my Argentinian friend!" Trump blurted.

[-] Sunflier@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago

Warns? Must be a rally. If it were to his donors, it'd be "promises".

[-] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 11 points 6 days ago

It's a warning in the same sense as someone warns that your building might burn down if you don't pay protection money.

Most of his mind might be gone, but the extortion part is still operative.

[-] Almacca@aussie.zone 6 points 5 days ago

If it's so important, Republicans should accept their very reasonable changes, Donald.

[-] blarth@thelemmy.club 5 points 5 days ago

But republicans control every facet of government right now. They can easily end the shutdown right now.

[-] PedroMaldonado@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

That's some gangster bullshit

[-] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

So all you Republicans

That helped me to win

I'd sincerely like to thank ya

Cuz now I got the world swingin' from my nuts

Damn it feels good to be a gangsta

[-] Sunflier@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

How would social security be gone? It's in a special trust fund that is seperate and apart from the government's budget.

[-] alquicksilver@lemmy.world 198 points 1 week ago

He's planning on getting rid of those anyway, so he can continue to fuck right off.

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[-] Auk@lemmy.world 92 points 1 week ago

I heard Epstein’s island is lovely this time of year.

[-] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 84 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This is pitiful reporting by Newsweek. They're happy to state what each side is saying about the situation, and they fail to do even the most basic research to fact check any of the statements.

The article cites Republicans as saying that Democrats "want to provide free health care to illegal aliens". The heavy implication is that without the budget Reps are trying to push, we will be paying for that or that Dems wouldn't approve a budget that didn't - which is just patently untrue.

Ignoring that hospitals will, of course, provide emergency care to anyone (not for free, mind), and focusing on the idea of major U.S. benefits programs providing help to undocumented immigrants... they just don't. They go to Americans and qualifying resident non-citizens, i.e. green-card holders, etc. who have been here 5+ years (Medicare) or have paid enough into the relevant taxes (Social Security). Medicaid is similar.

This is stuff I was previously familiar with and was able to verify in minutes using basic internet resources.

Republicans say or imply benefit money will go to undocumented immigrants unless this budget is passed, which is patently untrue and easy to check on. That Newsweek gives Republicans voice throughout the article to their claims, some false and some unfounded, but only gives one Democrat a quote - one that focuses on the shutdown itself more than the funding/benefit claims - is bullshit.

I'm not saying it's wrong Newsweek didn't give equal "time" to each side. I'm saying it's wrong they spend so much of the article quoting misinformation from Republicans without any clear fact-checking.

There's a quote, one with various forms and attributions, that posits to journalists:

If one person claims it's raining and another says the sun is shining, the media's job isn't to quote both—it's to look out the window and report the truth.

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[-] TheAsianDonKnots@lemmy.zip 71 points 1 week ago

Hypothetically, let’s say the administration cancels social security. What happens to all of my money I’ve already paid into the system? I’m not at retirement age yet. Are they just going to steal my investment?

[-] hateisreality@lemmy.world 71 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You think?.......of course it's stolen

[-] orclev@lemmy.world 61 points 1 week ago

That's the great misconception and lie of Social Security. People think it's like a government run 401k, that you're "investing' in some retirement account every paycheck. That's not at all how it actually functions though. Social Security is two entirely independent things. First it's a benefits program like SNAPP or Medicaid. In that regard Congress votes every year on how much budget they're going to allocate towards paying people Social Security. Literally everyone receiving Social Security cheques in the following year are reliant on Congress deciding to allocate enough money to make sure those cheques don't bounce. Secondly it's an income tax. The two are not connected in any way. The amount of Social Security income tax that the federal government collects each year has absolutely no bearing on the amount of funding that Congress allocates for Social Security in the coming year.

Let that sink in.

Social Security is the world's biggest Ponzi scheme. Always has been. That's a huge part of why a lot of Republicans, particularly older ones (like ones around retirement age) are hand wringing about falling birth rates. Social Security always counted on the idea that there would be more people working and paying into Social Security than the number of people currently collecting Social Security. In a country with a positive population growth that would always be true. It ceases to be true the moment you have a negative population growth rate though.

[-] TheFonz@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

This comment is so stupid I wouldn't know where to start to unpack it. This is such a bad take on so many levels it makes Sovereign citizens sound like supreme court justices.

[-] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 81 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Social Security is the world’s biggest Ponzi scheme. Always has been.

No, it's a big insurance scheme, but its finances have been fucked with. The original intent was that the money went into a trust fund isolated from other government finances. It didn't take long for some scumbag to realize that the trust fund could be used as collateral for loans, or "lent" directly from the trust fund to other government activities.

Also, even if it's funded year-to-year, if the cap on contributions were lifted, the system could be self-funding, or nearly so. But the Republicans (and some conservative Democrats) have been trying to kill it since FDR started it, and the specious argument is always that it's not affordable.

The US in 1935 could afford it. The only difference now is a matter of priorities and who's in charge.

[-] Kimjongtooill@sh.itjust.works 62 points 1 week ago

They cap it at 160k a year. So if you make 3m a year, you'll only pay on what is due on the 160k.

Getting rid of that, along with taxing the rich, would fix that problem. If 8 people have more wealth than like 4 billion people, it's really not a "we need more people to keep this ponzi scheme" problem, it's more of a France in the 1790s problem.

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[-] LordCrom@lemmy.world 66 points 1 week ago

Social security has been withdrawn frim my paycheck for 40 years.... shit better be there for me when its my turn.

Whats more dangerous than a starving, homeless man with nothing more to lose.

[-] Typotyper@sh.itjust.works 50 points 1 week ago

25 million staving homeless men with a purpose

[-] tehn00bi@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago
[-] LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago

Some cuts may be necessary in these trying times

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[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 56 points 1 week ago

To be clear, the day SS is gone is the day I'm willing to pick up a gun and get this party started.

And I know I'm not alone.

This society doesn't need to continue functioning the day SS stops functioning. So the treasonous Republican party can go ahead and do that and find out what happens next.

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[-] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 42 points 1 week ago

Gone to funding ballrooms and Argentinian farms

[-] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago

"Surrender or it's your fault that I kill you!"... Fucking cartoon character

[-] Ithral 34 points 1 week ago

They are just emulating their favorite diety.

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[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago

Don't worry, the money will not be gone. It will go to the rich instead in order to trickle down...

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 35 points 1 week ago

No he won't. EVERY Republican knows that if they end Social Security, every one of them will lose their next primary, and Dems will control Congress for decades.

Following WWII, Dems controlled Congress for years, because Americans didn't trust SS in the hands of Republicans. Eventually, even Republicans had to admit that it was untouchable.

He won't dare touch SS, or it will be the end of the Republican Party.

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[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago

You all better give a shit, because I fore sure don't, I can let endless number of people suffer and die without caring the least bit about it, can you?
-Trump the Anti Christ

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[-] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 30 points 1 week ago

That's not a warning, it's a threat.

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