Yes, please, do it already!
Years ago, the EU parliament decided to abandon DST - with a vast majority. They sent it to the governments as "Homework" to determine whether to keep Summer- or Standard Time. Nothing came out of it.
The EU parliament didn't vote to abandon DST, they voted for letting countries decide if they want to do DST or if they want to stick to one time zone. Apparently most countries decided to stick with DST.
They should obviously keep standard time. No one wants light at 10pm!!!
I would 100% rather light at 10pm than 4am where it's totally wasted.
Current light breakdown in Ireland over the year:

I always forget how far north a lot of Europe is. The fact Dublin is further north than most Canadian major cities throws me for a loop
Yeah it's one of those weird map oddities that's more noticeable on a globe.
We are mega fucked here if the gulf of Mexico ever stops sending us that warm water goodness.
Idk what you want since you're only getting about 4 hours of night in the summer. You gotta just waste some daylight when you live that far north
No one wants light at 10pm!!!
I do
I live in Spain, having light at 11 pm is pretty cool.
I stand corrected. People seem to love evening sunlight

On the other hand, if we had not saved daylight we would have probably ran out by now.
YES FINALLY!
Funny coincidence that they started doing that after i commited myself to life in winter time for ever. Wake up at 5 summer time and 6 winter time
It doesn't even matter which they pick, just pick one! We're free to live our lives independently from the clock. There's no natural law that states work starts at 8.
Pick real time and let people adjust their schedules. It's easier and the science backs it up.
Pick real time
And have to put up with Bill Maher? No thanks.
Let's keep summer time, It's already dark before 18, once we'll switch to winter time it'll be dark before 17. The benefit is that instead of going to work and starting to work when it's dark ,we'll go to work when it's dark and start to work at dawn. Not worth-it
There's a large population where this has no meaning. The sun rises at 10 AM and sets at 1 PM in the winter here where I live. There's nothing to gain for us, only problems and missed meetings and school mornings and extra stress on kids and parents having to adjust their sleeping routines days in advance. It sucks ass, absolutely not worth it even if we did live in the very specific latitudes where this is perfect. Down with daylight savings! ✊
Standard time is objectively better for health. Brighter mornings is so much more important
Fuck bright mornings, I want some daylight to do shit outside after coming home from work.
UTC for all.
Man that would fucking blow for so many people.
The date would change in the middle of a business day
Maybe at some point we abandon timezones all together... One can only hope...
Marvelous idea, let's disregard well established language and time critical systems already relying on the existence of timezones that can't easily be updated for... Being able to tell people your time without actually conveying information.
"Hey wanna play some videya" I ask my friends on another continent during noon "Sorry, its not quite dark yet but already too late for hideogame" -my friend, for whom the sun is still visible, but its a little bit too late, wishing there was a way to easily convey the fact that it is 21:00
Time zones may suck for programmers, but everyone who thinks even a little bit about human to human communication realizes how stupid it is. But I digress, were on lemmy; we dont do human to human communication often
What's preferred by Europeans, permanent standard time or permanent daylight time?
For me summer time (where we have light during the evening) is the best! Nothing comes even close to it
I really don't care, just stop the switching.
Depends which side of EU. Same time for Spain and Poland makes little sense.
As a german, I'd prefer permanent daylight time, I want there to be longer light in the evening. I hate when during the winter months I leave the appartment when it is still dark outside and come back home when it's already dusk.
That said, I can see why this wouldn't work across the entire EU, Spain for example is already "an hour behind" in terms of daylight, because of their location, their DST means it's probably light outside at 22:00
I think scientific research is quite clear that a permanent standard / winter time is healthier and objectively the better choice.
Personally, I'd still prefer a permanent summer/ daylight saving time. During summer, when days are long, I don't really care. But in winter it's usually still dark when I start working and already dark when I finish. With permanent summer time, it might be slightly harder to get up in the morning, but I could at least get a bit of light in the afternoon.
In Iceland we have permanent Summer time and it's great. We go to work in the dark in either case during winter but having some daylight until 4 or 5 makes a big difference.
At the mere mention of changing the summer time, you get all bar and restaurant people shouting to not touch it.
But actually we're in the wrong time zone too, so summer time is actually just having office hours from 07:00 to 15:00 solar time but with more lying.
Just make it happen already!
Do it
Any particular reason why a sovereign country can't just decide to do this on its own? Why does it have to be a pan-european thing?
Time chaos in EU.
Imagine organizing military responses or shipping logistics when you can go under an hour then forward and then under an hour again just crossing 3 countries.
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