In other words, our taxes now pay for health care for Argentinians, not Americans. Despite the fact that they are claiming the current shutdown is because they don't want our taxes paying for non-Americans getting health care. Make it make sense.
oh, this is not to pay for health care. it is to sustain the carry trade scam that both the american and argentinan goverment are involved in.
So more like "wealthcare" than healthcare.
I'm appalled I haven't heard the word wealthcare before.
Apauling
Healthcare for Argentina? Milei is destroying public welfare. That's for other oligarchs. $40B in exchange of... Well, Milei is acting unhinged and won't explain, but probably lands, water, lithium. Trump bought something, we just don't know what yet.
It could also be partly to help keep him in power, as Argentina collapsing, again, under libertarianism makes their attempts at libertarianism harder to justify. They'd still lie about it, so I agree there is an ulterior motive, that personally benefits Trump or his cronies.
Israel gets free health care too!
Hey. Hey.
Y'all remember when he closed USAID for sending too much taxpayer money overseas?
USAID's budget was fucking $44 billion to work in 130 counties.
Now T is sending that all to one guy. Literally one guy.
America first? More like Argentina and Israel first
If it helps, here in Argentina, Mr Milei is all in for Israel first
Dude is just draining our economy for personal gain.
I bet half of this (probably why he chose to double it) will be waiting for him in his bunker when he finally has to flee.
He's doing to America, exactly what he did to his casinos. He didn't run them out of business because he was a terrible businessman (even though he is), it was a deliberate strategy: suck out every penny of profit, declare bankruptcy, and stick all of his creditors with the bills. Rinse, and repeat, over and over.
Now he is doing it with America, allowing all of his Psychopathic Oligarchs to loot America until there is nothing left. We see our beautiful country, but they only see a fat, rich, lazy target to be exploited into bankruptcy.
Yup, this is what "running America like a business" looks like.
That's another thing that Dems should be fighting. The government is NOT a business, and shouldn't be run like one. The government is far larger than ALL businesses combined, and is tasked with regulating those corporations, and the business environment. Running a business, and running America, require two totally separate skill sets, which both require specialized training.
The problem is that businessmen become successful, and when you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail. So they start to think that the answer to America's problems is to apply proven business strategies, and then they get confused when it never works out. Profit should not be a nation's objective.
That's a primary reason that I automatically reject any billionaire, or even multi-millionaire, candidate. Even if their heart is in the right place (which it seldom is with Oligarchs), their policy concepts are flawed by their insistence on their adherence to profit strategies.
The bottom line is that America does not exist to make a profit.
Government shouldn't be for profit. The goal of government should be to ensure everyone has what they need
Not sure what you're talking about. I'm not American, but this action is pretty clear to me. Milei came into power promising to resolve the economic crisis of Argentina through extreme liberalisation of economy and with stronger bonds with the USA. The USA indeed benefits from these bonds, through the privatisation of companies and natural resources as well as the possibility to act as a foreign investor. However, the economic crisis has not been resolved: life is expensive and salaries are low. This year there are elections in Argentina, there is the possibility of a change of government to a party which may not be so friendly to the USA. By giving Milei a large sum of money Trump gets more support from Milei directly (and probably some favours and concessions) as well as a higher chance that Milei gets reelected. With that money Milei can give subsidies and enact reforms which the people will appreciate and point out how his reforms worked out, as well as show that his bonds with the USA are beneficial to the country.
You say Trump is draining the economy of USA for his personal gain, but this very much does not seem the case. Looking at the history of Latin America this looks much more as a small investment to drain the Argentinian economy.
Dude, he said he will only give the money if Millei wins again. It's a direct bribe to the people of Argentina.
I'm not sure, the article does not say so. Regardless, my analysis is independent from this fact. My main point is that this is not Trump stealing money from the government, but rather Trump investing money to gain a strong influence on a country that has always been rich and full of resources.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cg7n82gd7pvo
We apparently can't afford to keep our own government open, or staff vital programs, but we can bribe the people of Argentina with $40 BILLION.
It's a fucking joke.
Thank you for the reference. I would consider this an investment by the government, at that it does not appear to be a bad one at all. Even though I really despise the implications behind it, it is a justified and rational choice.
The US relies on influence on external countries and foreign investments. Do you think the US is rich because of their great manufacturing and exports? I live in Europe and own basically nothing made in the US. Not because I'm against it, there just isn't anything made in the US to buy. It's been a long time US products are just software and websites, but most wealth comes from other sources.
I do not like your government, and I despise they cut government spending and social spending. I believe this will cause plenty problems in your country. However, this decision seems completely justified. The US will probably get back way more than those 40 billions, by opening mines and acquiring local industries. I believe your country is quite interested in lithium, that is a good source for it. Together with Bolivia, who has elections today and is already decided to sell off swats of its resources in exchange of some dollars for a year or two of economic stability.
Look man, if you're in Argentina, I get it. You want that money. It is a lot of money.
But c'mon. Nothing this administration does is justified. Nothing they do is in the interest of American citizens. You need to understand this.
I think you’re both right. The problem in this discussion is that “justified” really depends on perspective. I agree with the other guy it is justified… from Trump’s perspective. I agree with you it is not justified for the American people.
Argentina, isn’t that where all the Nazis fled to after the Second World War?
Trump needs a plan b
Well they have to flee somewhere when shit hits the fan.
I'm surprised i didn't think of this but that does sound exactly like what they're doing.
Or slushing money away through corrupt channels and pocketing it themselves.
Bush Doctrine says we follow them to finish the job this time.
Buddy really went to his barber and asked for the 1960's psychedelic rock cut
Huh. I guess our tax dollars are going to pay for non citizen's healthcare.
That little guy with the hair beside trump was on stage at one of Elon Musk's "rallies" not too long ago. Something smells like rotten fish here.
Don’t cry for me Argentina, I’m already dead.
Dems need to tie the money to Argentina directly to the the loss of the Obamacare subsidies - you are losing your health care so Trump can just give away the money to a foreign country who kisses his ass instead.
All Americans on Obamacare will be getting letters before Nov 1 informing them of the enormous increase in their health care premiums, including a LOT of MAGAs. Dems need to drill it home to those MAGAs that the reason they will be paying many times more for health care, or losing it altogether, is because they're money went to Argentina.
Why Argentina? Maybe because Argentina has a strong history of offering sanctuary to Nazis, and Trump is just buying access for when everything inevitably melts down.
It's because Trump and Milei have the same boss.
this is what election interference looks like
Totally random, nothing going on here..
Argentina and Israel have universal healthcare for their citizens….yet we send them billions
And yet America does nothing about it.
Fascists alliance! Time to go anti fa
Pretty convinced that, if people in the US paid the money they pay for healthcare to live in Argentina at the current conversion rate, they would live like kings.
“Gurl look how orange you look” never fit better. If you compare the skin tones of these two s**t stains, Dump doesn’t qualify as caucasian
A community for discussing events around the World
Rule 1: posts have the following requirements:
Rule 2: Do not copy the entire article into your post. The key points in 1-2 paragraphs is allowed (even encouraged!), but large segments of articles posted in the body will result in the post being removed. If you have to stop and think "Is this fair use?", it probably isn't. Archive links, especially the ones created on link submission, are absolutely allowed but those that avoid paywalls are not.
Rule 3: Opinions articles, or Articles based on misinformation/propaganda may be removed. Sources that have a Low or Very Low factual reporting rating or MBFC Credibility Rating may be removed.
Rule 4: Posts or comments that are homophobic, transphobic, racist, sexist, anti-religious, or ableist will be removed. “Ironic” prejudice is just prejudiced.
Posts and comments must abide by the lemmy.world terms of service UPDATED AS OF OCTOBER 19 2025
Rule 5: Keep it civil. It's OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It's NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
Rule 6: Memes, spam, other low effort posting, reposts, misinformation, advocating violence, off-topic, trolling, offensive, regarding the moderators or meta in content may be removed at any time.
Rule 7: We didn't USED to need a rule about how many posts one could make in a day, then someone posted NINETEEN articles in a single day. Not comments, FULL ARTICLES. If you're posting more than say, 10 or so, consider going outside and touching grass. We reserve the right to limit over-posting so a single user does not dominate the front page.
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
News !news@lemmy.world
Politics !politics@lemmy.world
World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world
For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/