What's the criteria?
Speed and reliability? Snakeboi.
Ability to move around unimpeded and/or taking a dump while being on Lemmy? $350 router with spikes.
And if prison rules, I'm going router with spikes...
Reliability 100% the snakeboi
But for speed, WiFi can actually out-perform those particular snakebois in many scenarios.
In perfect conditions for Wi-Fi. I live in a high rise and the 2.4 Ghz band is hardly usable. My previous phone didn't have dual band Wi-Fi and it was much faster on 4G than WiFi.
Plus, modern routers and APs often rely on band aggregation and so even with devices that have dual band, crowded airwaves will have a negative effect on speed.
Wi-Fi is very fast when I'm in my cabin in the countryside. But when I get home with the same devices, it's barely usable.
You could argue that I need a better router with the newest protocol and gizmos but so far, even with new bands and protocols, Wi-Fi is still a competition of which router and devices will shout louder than their neighbors.
Nope. While WiFi has fancy claims you're not going to get any more than around 1200mbps at 20 metres on the best day with the best gear.
While with cat6 you'll probably do 2.5gbps to 100m no problem, and even 10gbps. Even cat5e will do those speeds at certain distances.
Snaky boi is consistent
I handle a lot of internal support for a dev outfit.
"My shit's slow."
"That's because you're on wireless at your house. Not my problem, but I'll try to help. Can you hardwire it?"
"That would be IMPOSSIBLE!"
"Suffer."
I used to work on a tech support hotline for a ISP 10 years ago and that was the usual thing.
If the WiFi sucked on router provided as part of the service then sure, I could send a technician, but usually the router only had one ethernet port.
Have that router. Snakey boy wins.
You must have forgotten to sharpen the spikes 😹
How do you find it? Do you manage the scary spikes?
If you flip it upside down it’s a Halloween spider decoration.
Cables are fine until that stupid clip breaks off and every nudge unplugs the fucking cable ever so slightly that it doesn't work but you can't see it.
Get a crimp tool and a 50-pack of connectors. If one breaks, it takes all of 60 seconds to re-crimp the end and you’ll only lose about an inch of cable length.
I re-cabled my entire apartment when I first moved in. Best decision I ever made. I just used the existing Cat5 lines to pull my Cat6a instead. Apartment got a free upgrade to Cat6a (which they never even knew about, because I wasn’t going to lose a deposit over something stupid like “unapproved upgrades”) and I got my tasty gigabit.
I was trying to download Red Dead Redemption 2. It was like 120GB, and was going to take hours at 10Mbps on the existing Cat5. I quickly said “fuck that, I can run new lines in 45 minutes and have the download done in 20 minutes with gigabit.” Sure enough, about an hour later, I was playing my game.
I have a collection of 3d prints on thingiverse that reattach that part. Highly recommend.
This is why Pro level is to terminate all of your permanent cabling with punch down jacks and patch panels, then use throw-away patch cables from jacks to devices.
The sheer amount of engineering, FCC regulations, and wizardry that goes into making 802.11 fast is insane. It feels weird seeing so much data get shoved through radio waves which are still subject to only one transmission at a time which is why we have stuff like CSMA/CA and MIMO
Still no match for good ol ethernet though lol
Just the sorcery that makes wifi a thing is amazing itself.
If it's permanent, just run a cable to it
I tend to encounter a cable's greates enemy: Walls in a rented appartment you can't just drill through
True story:
*Grabs Cat2 cable out of lab storage and hooks everything up to it*
"Why is everything so slow?"
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An image titled "who would win?"
On the left side is an image of an Asus RT-AC5300 Tri-Band Wireless Gigabit Router, a square, black router with a red line around the side near the upper edge, and 8 antennas coming up from the bottom. The text beneath the image reads "A $350 router with scary spikes"
On the right side is a blue Cat6 ethernet cable. The text beneath this image reads "A $3 snakey boi"
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An important note is it has an epic gaming aesthetic which makes it faster
My favourite thing is to hear people talk about having 'great WiFi' as if that is an internet connection.
I used to work for spectrum. I'd say around 60% of people legit do not know the difference between wifi and Internet. No wifi means no Internet, to them. Makes some trouble shooting harder
Them: "The WiFi is down."
Me: '... No, I still see the TV & the laptop & Pi, on the network.'
Them: "I can't connect to Flipboard."
Me: 'Ohhh, the internet is down. It's probably at the cable modem. Wait a moment for it to failover to wireless, then try again.'
Them: "Yep, now the WiFi is back."
Obligatory warning AVOID CCA CABLES! They can be a hazard!
Go for copper. More on this issue:
https://www.truecable.com/blogs/cable-academy/cca-vs-solid-copper#page_comments=1
Ok, that was an interesting read. Learning is fun y'all
The cheapest way to get cables is to know somebody who crimps it themselves, but for the majority of people probably buy from shitty places like walmart for a 1,000% upcharge.
just a heads up for anyone deciding to make their own cables, make sure you buy pass through rj45 ends or it becomes substantially more annoying to make a successful crimp. with pass through you can prep your cable and it doesn't matter how long you make the strands you're working with because you cut the excess off, with non-pass through you have to cut them to a specific size and if it's too long when they bottom out, your conductors will stick out making your crimp weaker inviting poor connection issues later in the cable's life.
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Well until you have to guide that snaky boy through the whole apartment and through door frames.
If you connect both ends of that snakey boi into the router then you’ll find out who wins real quick
If your TV vendor decides to only put 100Mb cards in their TV then unfortunately spikey boy wins and you lose unless you're willing to downrez your AV catalog.
Venn diagram of people who understand this specific technicality and people who don't want to deal with the shitty TV software is almost a circle though.
I'd rather get a Android box at the very least.., or just HTPC.
What the hell are you watching that has a bitrate of >100Mb? Because unless you have a 16K television I suspect the answer is nothing.
They do that shit on purpose. Use a shield or an htpc. Only input your TV should be getting is HDMI.
Latency is the name of the game if you're gaming. Copper will always give you the fastest ping times compared to the fastest wifi you can buy.
But can snakey boi summon daedra?
Depends, am i routing data or cosplaying the lich king?
Depends on the challenge. Snakey boiy loses if the challenge is to move around the house and go into the backyard.
What's the speed? Do you have a shitty 10mbps connection like my parents? Then WiFi, because you're easily saturating that line either way.
Do you have gigabit? Then Ethernet, but then again getting like 600mbps wirelessly is good enough.
Biggest thing is having GOOD coverage. My house has multiple access points so that my connection is great everywhere. People with a shitty ISP router shoved in the cupboard in their basement make no sense lol.
Do you have a shitty 10mbps connection like my parents? Then WiFi, because you're easily saturating that line either way.
Only if latency doesn't matter. WiFi has a lot more jitter, no matter if your WAN connection is 10 or 1000mbps.
We ran snakey boys throughout the house using command hooks on the ceiling when my wife and I had to go WFH 3 years ago.
The temporary fix is still going strong. At this point, the place would look weird without hastily strung up CAT5 all over the place.
Why is this my top post? What joke am I missing? So confused.
Mobile devices -> Wifi Devices which can't be connected via Lan (various reasons) -> Wifi Else -> LAN
It's that simple
Real talk though, I own that router and it's awesome. Can't say the wifi signal is much different than any other router I've owned, but it's got loads of awesome features I use for hosting stuff. DDNS support plus Let's Encrypt plus OpenVPN support in one box. Very handy.
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