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[-] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 35 points 1 year ago

Why are people afraid of calls these days?

I'm not afraid of phone calls. I hate phone calls. Same way I hate boiled pizza. Makes me judge your parents for the decisions you make.

Let's walk through the average phone call, as the technology is currently implemented and people interact with it, because my username checks the fuckout.

Phone might ring. Who fucking knows? There's one volume rocker on the side of the phone and it controls like nine different and independent volume sliders depending on what app is in control of it this specific nanosecond, so trying to turn Tom Scott down while trying to fall asleep to Something You Mighte Naught Have Knowne, you also turned your ringer off. Shrodinger's fucking ringtone.

Phone actually rings. It's a number from your area code you don't recognize, which means it's either the local Republican wanting money, or a criminal in India.

Phone actually rings, it's someone on your contacts list for once, so you pick up the phone. Apple patented the horizontal slide, so real phones can't use it. Instead sometimes it's a button and sometimes it's a touch-here-and-slide-in-any-direction. When the phone was new you set up a "gesture" where an upward motion and placing the screen near your face would automatically answer the call...that feature might have been deprecated. Did you set it up where pushing the power button would answer the call? Nope. That just hung up on them.

Phone rings again, you do the stupid slide gesture. "Hello?" Silence. Silence. Silence. Line goes dead. Okay, this is one in three phone calls that just don't work.

Phone rings again, stupid slide gesture. It doesn't recognize it, you try it again, it works. "Hello?" "Hello?" "Hello?" "Ah, can you hear me?" three second pause "Yeah I can year you." (audio quality that resembles a 90's McDonald's drive thru speaker that's only been pissed in once this week)

I don't know why I haven't started answering the phone "what the PITY FUCK did you call me for?" Because I don't think anything more subtle will get people to get. to. the. POINT!!!

"What's up, Bob?" "Hey Greg, it's uh. It's Bob." I knew this before I answered the phone because caller ID has been a standard feature on phones since I had my first handjob, but the lead in your synapses has prevented you from internalizing this concept. We'll try and let it soak in for another 20 years I guess. "What's. up. Bob?" "Uh, well, nothin much, what about you?" "WHAT'S UP BOB?" "Well uh, me and uh, me and Cindy are gonna go to the uh, the uh Chinese place and get some, like, takeout or whatever? You want anything?"

"No thanks."

"Uh well, uh, you sure, I mean like, we can get you somethin."

"I'm sure."

"Well uh, okay then I guess. You been doing okay?"

"Bob I've got something on the stove, I've got to go."

"Oh alright, well, uh, I guess I'll let you go then, talk to ya later"

take phone away from face, wait for the screen to light up again to see where the end call button is because it's not a fucking button anymore because the amoeba that ate Steve Jobs' brain escaped and multiplied to the rest of the tech industry, by the time you find it, the other party hung up.

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The same exchange via SMS:

"hey wer gettin chinese want some"

"nah. thx."

"k"

[-] hOrni@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

The same exchange vie phonecall: "Dude, I'm ordering Chinese, want some? Nah" Would take 4 seconds, would be faster then typing. Where the fuck is the problem?

Did you not read my long and detailed comment explaining exactly where the fuck are the many problems with modern telephones, or do you just like your pizza boiled?

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[-] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You removed one of the fifty or so problems by waving your hands and pretending to make everybody on the planet smarter about communicating and said "look I solved it".

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[-] Waker@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

I think that's valid, but you have to take into account that mostly everyone isn't as efficient on the phone as what you've described.

[-] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You're the person who tells the best stories at a party, aren't you?

And I don't mean that as a slight against you, I greatly enjoyed reading that.

[-] bitwolf@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago

This was hilarious to read. And so accurate, thank you 😅

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[-] Waker@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I wouldn't say we're afraid. I don't particularly like speaking on the phone though, but it's alright, I even worked call center for a while so it doesn't bother me much these days.

Anyways, essentially texting is just more efficient. I can't speak for everyone else, but for instance at work, I hate it when I have a question or need assistance on a specific topic, ask on my team chat and have a couple of people saying "quick call?".

If it's something really complex, fine... that's fair. Other than that? It's just so inefficient. I can be working on something else and just reply during my off time between tasks, same with whoever I ask help from. Also, most of the time I'm listening to music, or I have my TV with ambience sound on the background. So then I have to turn everything off just so I can go for a 5minute call for something that could be done over chat on the same amount of time.

Sorry this comment turned out way longer than I thought it would.

[-] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

So asynchronous communication can be more efficient for certain types of communication, but in other scenarios synchronous communication will be more efficient. Learning to identify which type of communication fits which type of mode is a valuable skill to have, one I recommend that everyone develops.

[-] Waker@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

I get what you mean. Overall, if it's not urgent I'd rather not make/receive calls.

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[-] socsa@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

Because I'm doing something else and I'm not going to just drop everything to receive information synchronously which could be sent asynchronously.

[-] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

It's alright to press the red button, you know.

[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

It's easier to weigh the relative importance and time sensitivity of the incoming message against the importance of what you're doing via text rather than a call.

[-] JCreazy@midwest.social 8 points 1 year ago

Because anything not important can be sent through a text. Most people call because it's something important or a big deal and at a lot of the times it's not a good call. So that's why people don't like phone calls because the thing that's on the other end is most likely non-desirable.

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[-] hOrni@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I think it's an American thing. Calling someone isn't weird here in the civilised world. Maybe it's their problem with robocalls. Maybe their paying too much for calls.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Nah, it's a generational thing and an introvert thing.

Gen Z was born after the widespread adoption of cell phones with texting capability making old fashioned phone calls more or less obsolete outside of emergencies and the like and thus don't like the unnecessary hassle.

Meanwhile, some of us millenials and older are taking a cue from them and realising that we don't HAVE TO do phone calls all the time if we don't want to.

I live in Denmark and the only people who regularly call me are my boomer parents. Everyone else only call me if they need to get a hold of me immediately, as it should be.

[-] klemptor@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

I'm Gen X. I grew up with a landline and no caller ID, and if the phone rang you mostly just answered it, unless you were screening calls. Could be your best friend asking if you want to go to the mall, could be your least favorite aunt calling to whine at your mom for whatever her latest minor ailment is. In which case you're stuck making polite small talk until your mom is done drying her hair or whatever.

It sucked a lot.

Now I've got a cell and caller ID. Unless I'm expecting a call, I never answer the phone. If it's important, they'll leave a message. Usually it's not even a little bit important.

And my boomer mom just loves to call for a long pointless chat. If I see her name on the caller ID, I have to decide whether I have an hour minimum to waste because it's never shorter than that. 🙄

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[-] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 5 points 1 year ago

Nah, calls only if you can't put it in a few sentences, is a thing here too.

[-] chic_luke@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

My family and my girlfriend are basically the only people allowed to do this. Everyone else - if you're calling me directly I will assume it's an emergency and will get annoyed if it's not.

Calls are fine. Unscheduled calls are not. Text me to set up a time to call that works for both. I am okay with giving you my undivided attention - just not necessarily right now.

[-] notanormalnord@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago
[-] chic_luke@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I still can't understand what's wrong with this. I believe we have normalized being constantly reachable and available way too much, and "through mandatory text replies" is already way too much. Calls take this one step further: "I am demanding to have your undivided attention, right now, for as long as it takes, I don't care what you're doing". I just think that's rude.

Actually, even with my partner we have a "Scheduling calls is vastly preferable to random calls" and I am 100% okay with this. If I am doing something else and it's not urgent, I'll get to you later. Let me get my work done and wait until my next break, or let me actually enjoy my friends' company IRL for a few hours, then I get back to you to chat. Why do I have to be available, at your disposal, immediately and giving you my undivided attention anytime? I'm not a chatbot, I'm a human being with a full and interesting life.

I believe not doing this is only doable if you have few friends. If you have plenty of friends + a full social life, you really have to manage your conversations and find various time windows throughout your day to keep up with multiple texting threads and that is time consuming as it is - before I established my own boundaries, it would seep in all areas of my life and I would get absolutely nothing done at days because it was too dispersive.

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[-] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What I did to cut that out was to moan and answer like they just woke me up. Talk very slowly, take three seconds of "uuuuhhhhh" to answer every question and be as useless as possible. It isn't long before they hang up and send me the text they should have sent in the first place.

[-] Dave@lemmy.nz 16 points 1 year ago

I work remotely and one of my favourite things is how people message to ask if you're free for a call.

[-] nothendev@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 year ago

"Whomst the fuck?" (C) Wizord, 2023

[-] genoxidedev1@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

I just don't answer the phone at all if they can't bother to text (unless it's someone important to me).

I already blocked the number of my internet provider because they keep calling me for an appointment I had called off via email weeks ago by now.

[-] such_lettuce7970@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

Not everyone is able to text. Not everyone has access to or can afford a smart phone. Refusing to take a voice call is a clear sign of social ineptitude, imo - if you really can't be bothered to do that I shudder to think of what you must be like in face-to-face interactions. Toughen up.

[-] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 14 points 1 year ago

Phone calls are so much worse than face to face conversations. The absolute worst is having to make an important phone call. That ruins my entire day.

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[-] CaptainEffort@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago
[-] notnotmike@programming.dev 10 points 1 year ago

There's a certain level of irony of a message like theirs in the comments of a meme post

[-] russjr08@outpost.zeuslink.net 5 points 1 year ago

I shudder to think of what they must be like in face-to-face interactions

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[-] HopeOfTheGunblade@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

Voice calls don't have the same costs for everyone. I've worked in tech support, taking calls all day, and that shit wore on me. Dealing with text is just lower cost, at least for me. Pretty ableist to just declare one medium the one true medium, all others are a sign of ineptitude.

Might be worth noting, also, that an earlier generation said the same goddamn thing about phone calls, as compared to F2F interactions.

Somehow, the tune always changes, but the dance steps remain the same.

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[-] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Imagine thinking that a smartphone is required for SMS. I remember back when smartphones were just getting to market in the 1980s, don't you?

Levels of idiocy to that magnitude are a clear sign of basic technology ineptitude. With that said: who typed this comment for you?

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[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

it has a big red button that says "don't speak to me" though

if I had to speak to them it wouldn't have that button

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[-] BoiLudens@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Personally I’ve enjoyed taking calls from friends and family. I used to be scared to death of it.

[-] MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com 4 points 1 year ago

I need an AI phone agent to whine at CSRs more nicely than I am capable of doing any longer.

That is what I need.

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