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Even if you don't like the guy, I think it's worth reading what he has to say. And you can agree with what he says and go on not liking him.
Now, if there only was a software one could control, that could be made to offer real good privacy and encryption…..
Yeah telegram isn't the best. They need encryption by default in private group chats and personal one on ones even without secret chat activated But the point is people need to stop the government censorship. Only if their were people who weren't slaves that could demand and force the government to stop egregious practices, instead of trying to be smartasses online
You‘re not wrong. But all of that needs private, trustworthy software…
My message to Telegram CEO: Open source your shit and we'll talk then about freedom and whatever marketing campaing you are on right now. Bye.
I don't see why the CEO of Telegram is concerned about laws about scanning of private messages since the vast majority of the communication on Telegram is unencrypted.
That and the need of an android or iphone in order to create an account.... ;[
You sheep are too attach to the people. The message is the point
Yeah the message is only half right.
A billionaire, with millions of followers. It's useful for people to see the message and start understanding what is happening.
Yes
The guy who made bank on Russian suppression of communication: "Europe is the problem."
The UK is imprisoning thousands for their tweets.
What an absolute loads of bollocks.
There has recently been 1 woman jailed for her tweets where she admitted to inciting violence, not because of free speech issues.
These libertarian wankers love citing that sole case (and make out that it's "thousands, I tell ya!") but will overlook that several Just Stop Oil protesters were jailed for 4 years just for holding a zoom call and anti-genocide protesters are being arrested and charged with terrorism offences just for writing on a bit of cardboard.
So just do ignore all the news reports and video of citizens filming the cops coming to arrest them over tweets. You people are so sheepish
And if you paid any attention to those reports, you would know that the vast majority are where those people have been critical of the UK or other govts actions, especially surrounding Palestine and none have gone further with the exception of Asa Winstanley. The only reason the police have visited those people is because zionist like complaining about nothing until they get their own way.
The one that the commentor here was responding to was a clear case of inciting violence. The same with people like the constantly crashing out Graham Lineham, who was arrested by police because he was inciting violence against a protected class.
So while the UK govt is infringing on peoples free speech, its not the ones who are getting all the publicity. Theyre just a bunch of whining fuckwits who want to be able to threaten people without consequence.
Please do try to keep abreast of the situation rather than stomping in with big boots and looking like a fucking idiot.
she admitted to inciting violence
Why would she admit something like that... This sounds sus. You got a link?
Interesting... 2 years for an idiotic post. Interesting use of taxpayer money.
But these people allow pedos go free and live their best lives
"An idiotic post"
She was inciting people to burn down hotels housing vulnerable people. Some of those padeos you bleat about were at the protests while 60% of those arrested at a protest in Bristol have form as domestic abusers
Yes, all about protecting women and kids.
I am not sure what point you are trying to make here.
Pedos should be in prison or dead.
uK is like US a place where they got to live their best lives tho
I am not sure what point you are trying to make here.
You should ask that of yourself. Youre the one who brought up paedos. Maybe you get all too muddled in your head and cant make a salient point?
Wasting resources to police speech in a country over ran with pedos like Andrew is clown behaviour
If you're having trouble stringing a sentence together, feel free to draw a picture with crayons.
Who hurt you?
Only the rich ones that can fly on private jets to far islands.
It's not his n first post you dolt.
What I found most alarming about this whole thing: this post showed up in the Telegram app for me, in a banner. I don’t follow Durov’s channel. He decided to push it to every Telegram client regardless of whether they’re following him.
Mine looks weird 😄
This isn't true. I did not receive it at all. I found this on a news website that basically screenshotted his post. Then I extracted the text and posted it here
Okay well, I did. It was on the iOS Telegram client, US phone number. Maybe Pavel pushed it only to certain clients.
what is up with this batshit insane post, i know this was written by some right wing facist, people like you are the reason it is like this
Germany is what? Also the EU voted against chat control.
I partly agree with your point, but please state the facts precisely.
Also the EU voted against chat control.
They did not. It was just removed from the agenda for now.
OK, I didn't know. But my point still is that we don't have it (yet).
this was the dude arrested because he let drug trafficking and csam go unchecked on telegram.... so naturally it makes sense that he'll lurch rightward.
He is not responsible for the user uploads. Telegram deletes illegal activity. If it's a private group they don't know what's happening. CSAM has been on YouTube and they do little about it. But your masters didn't tell you to hate Google yet.
it's his service; he's absolutely responsible or it. he was arrested because he DIDN'T do anything about it.
He was arrested because he didn't stop people from having freedom of speech. He wasn't and hasn't been found guilty of anything.
posessing csam is not "freedom of speech".
nevermind the fact that telegram repeatedly refused to join child protection against csam groups to address the problem of csam on their service.
Are you stupid on purpose? I'm saying thats the real reason they arrested him. They wanted to censor freedom of speech. Not scam
its everyone elses fault that he let csam unchecked on his app?
It's the people who posted it fault. You think that one human can read everyone's messages lol? They would need to spy on everyone and have millions of employees specifically looking for illegal activity.
People are so righteous but have done nothing to ensure that the Epstein files were revealed.
and the people who posted it were given the platform by telegram and their ceo who did nothing to help fight csam and child exploitation.
I know one thing. If I had a platform I wouldn't be responsible for my users post. All these other CEOs have liability protection. It's a double standard
If it’s a private group they don’t know what’s happening
This is not true, group chats with more than two members on Telegram are NEVER encrypted. Telegram admins have full access to see the contents of these private chats, and have the ability to respond to court orders, but they were ignoring those requests. This is why he was arrested. Google/YouTube respond to court orders and do take stuff down, and actual encrypted messengers like Signal have no way to see the contents of the messages, which is why the owners and operators of these services have never been arrested.
They aren't encrypted, hence why I never said they were. This is something your cooked mind imagined so you can argue with yourself.
Private Groups: Only members can see messages. Admins cannot view messages unless they are part of the conversation.
This means if "Crimegroup" has shady stuff in the group if no member snitched it wouldn't be known for them to even delete it. While telegram (the company or workers) could look right in they would need to know it's an illegal group first because luckily they aren't spying on everyone by default
If messages aren't end to end encrypted, then their contents of the messages can be intercepted by Telegram or any adversary who has access to Telegram's systems. This is what the US Government was doing with Prism to suck in unencrypted data from ISPs without their knowledge. By not having end to end encryption, you have to trust that Telegram administrators are being truthful when they say they're not looking at your messages, and that their systems are never compromised by crimegroups or nation states without Telegram's knowledge.
True. It is a trust thing. Thats why I don't trust telegram for privacy. But I use it to follow groups
this post was submitted on 10 Oct 2025
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