didn't take too long either

"Haha, and you believed us" -Discord

FTA: The IDs leaked were from people appealing age verification.

That's different from the age verification process, which goes through a third party provider.

In short, the leaked IDs were from a standard shitty support platform (Zendesk, Salesforce, etc), not the much-advertised "safe and private" age verification system.

But the ai training lol

Very first question in FAQ:

Q: Does Discord or k-ID keep my selfie data?

A: Discord only logs the k-ID age verification results used to unlock your account—it doesn’t save your selfie image. For questions about k-ID’s processes, please contact k-ID.

So they are going to blame someone else.

Signal app on pc can screen share. I share with mates all the time through it

did you ever use jitsi? its not a chat platform, but one for video calls. it supports screen sharing and its very good. it works standalone, there are public instances

matrix used to use jitsi for group calls. I don't know what does it use now as a transition to an in house service has been in the works for a few years now, and element call just now starts to get mature enough, but I'm almost sure you can do screen sharing right now too. but try to check how usable it is before you try to get your friends to use it. if it doesn't work well, they may not accept your advice (as easily) in the future to switch chat providers

think of the children!!!!!! :< :< :< :< :<

I hear you. I used to teach classes in a particular field and most people followed our updates and events on Facebook. I tried for years to change that and pry people loose from the Zuck. Mostly unsuccessfully. I agree with the other user who suggested bridging protocols. Bridge them then incentivise use of the good one and/or disincentivise use of the evil one to naturally encourage people to migrate.

Back in the day when our community was switching from xmpp to discord, our solution was to write a bot on either end that relayed messages from one to the other. The xmpp bot got more and more naggy over time until eventually we put the xmpp side in read-only for everyone except the relay bot. It did a good enough job at building momentum to switch that the final holdouts came over when we went r/o.

You might consider building something similar if you want to make a genuine effort to switch to matrix or IRC. A relay bot solves the problem of the first people being punished by virtue of being first.

And you didn't tell Discord??

So, Discord - by forcing your acceptance of their tos which renders them immune from damages done by "third parties*

By offloading a term of service that Discord requires you to provide.

If they force you to give the info, they are responsible for handling and storing it properly, no matter what some evil lawyer or exec says.

If laws make bad things legal because rich people can use words, then there needs to be some form of redress to return the spirit of the laws to the people.

Maybe we all make usernames with a legally binding personal ToS that is deemed agreed upon by the corporation accepting the username.

This is just a shell game and they are conmen.

Moral of the story, never ask for help.

This was kind of breach so predictable even surprisedpikachu.txt isn't enough, but it must be done.

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No. According to an article the IDs were from people who were challenging an age determination. Still bullshit, but you don't need ID to use Discord as a general rule.

The unauthorized party also accessed a “small number” of images of government IDs from “users who had appealed an age determination.”

Small is, of course, a relative term. I would consider a small number to be 2 or 3. They may feel that 10,000 users is a small number. Who can say?

When I use the linux or web client it asks for a selfie with my ID card when I try to enter a server.

Works fine on Android.

Contacted support, they say my account is not flagged as underage but I have to submit the photo anyway. I told them i won't.

Apparently if they get flagged as underage when they aren't.

Yet another example of how requiring ID is a shit idea.

Now more than ever people will have to choose between privacy and comfort. And not to be a dick, but now more than ever, people choosing comfort are fucking over people who choose privacy.

And the "Tea" app leak happened right before these age-verification rules started popping up everywhere. It's obvious cause and effect, but it was also demonstrated RIGHT before.

Don't put your hand on a hot stove, especially after watching someone burn their hand on that hot stove.