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Rescuer at Fatal Tesla Cybertruck Crash Says Car Doors Wouldn't Open (www.newsweek.com)

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[-] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 10 points 6 days ago

I played Cyberpunk 2077 and Hitman: World of Assassinations. In Cyberpunk 2077 one hack in the game is to literally make the car explode (you need to be a high level Netrunner for that) and other hacks involve making the car accelerate unstoppably or engage emergency brakes (rendering it immobile). I've seen Teslas not only burn like hell with the doors somehow having an autolock feature always engaging at that time. It just makes me wonder how long it will be before one such Tesla fire is found to be a deliberate action by another to commit murder?

I am surprised that it hasn't happened yet.

[-] prole 4 points 6 days ago

I think Musk has openly stated that he wants to be Arasaka

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

it hasn't happened because the cars can do it on their own just fine

[-] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 2 points 3 days ago

Good morning 47, your target is WhatsHisAss, he drives a tesla and... oh, never mind. It set itself on fire, return to the safe house. You'll receive the money for all expenses since you didn't technically kill the guy...

[-] flightyhobler@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Remember Musk has access to all the car switches, pedals, steering, etc. if it happens often enough, it won't be odd when it's convenient for him that someone is burned alive in one of his mobile ovens.

[-] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 days ago

one of his mobile ovens.

The real dream of all true Nazis.

[-] flightyhobler@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Yeah, I guess history does repeat itself....

[-] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 1 points 5 days ago

A smart murderer who wants to get away with their crime will make it look like an accident. If their victim drives a Tesla and they know how to exploit a software glitch then that is a golden opportunity.

[-] hakkinen@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

go back to playing video games, kid

[-] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 1 points 4 days ago

I'm probably older than you.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 6 days ago

You can hack cars and it has happened in the past but usually it requires physical access to the car. Even today they don't really have network access which would open the entire car OS up to the internet (For what should be fairly obvious reasons). So you can't just install a virus.

Of course if you do have physical access to the car you could just do something much less sophisticated like planting a bomb, it seems unnecessarily complicated to develop a system that would wait until the car is in a vulnerable position and then take control and crash it.

[-] prole 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I'm pretty sure that Teslas do have network access as they're updated remotely. Unless I'm misremembering.

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

You can pop trunks and doors on a Tesla wirelessly using a flipper zero, which anyone can buy for ~100 bucks.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 5 days ago

Yes but there's no way to do sci-fi Hollywood stuff like taking over the car and driving it off at cliff. You've been able to open car doors by emulating the remote control for years but there's nothing you can do that would compromise the operation of the vehicle in transit.

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Okay cool? That wasn't the question though. The question was if you could hack a car remotely. Popping the doors wirelessly counts in my book.

[-] BanMe@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Everything in a Tesla is remote controllable, down to the odometer. It's through Tesla's own system but I am 100% sure that system has an Internet connection.

Heck I patched in my non-smart-car into my smarthome using an Onstar integration, I can lock and start it using Siri. Tesla's system is just a way beefier version of Onstar. I wouldn't be shocked if there was an app just for Elon to play with it all.

[-] MrIamsosmrt@feddit.org 5 points 6 days ago

The article is from march and the accident happened in November 2024.

[-] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 77 points 1 week ago

Known bug.

Out of scope. Won't be fixed.

[-] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 55 points 1 week ago

Do we have a tally somewhere of people killed by Teslas? I bet they racked up quite the high score up until now.

[-] aeternum 57 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

https://www.tesladeaths.com/

warning: there's a lot :/

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 week ago

There's some disagreement about how Tesla's safety compares to other brands though, with one study giving it the highest fatal accident rate and others giving Tesla a good safety score.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2025/01/11/tesla-fatality-rates/

[-] toddestan@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The disagreement doesn't really seem like a contradiction from my reading. The studies that give Tesla good marks are doing it based upon crash test results, which Teslas tend do pretty well on. The studies that give Tesla bad marks are doing based upon actual statistics from the field, and the numbers don't lie.

My assumption would be there's a few factors for this. It could be partly due to the sort of people who drive Teslas are more likely to crash them (this is probably why Buick is also so high on the list - too many senior drivers). Though my hunch is Tesla's self-driving implementation is a major part of it.

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 week ago

The number of fatal crashes and the safety score are not the same measures.

Insurance actuaries know the correct answer and Teslas are among the most expensive vehicles to insure, along with Dodge Ram pickups for obvious reasons.

[-] LogicalDrivel@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 week ago

Teslas turning off the autopilot feature less than a second before a crash, also helps keep that safety score high for the company. Its obviously driver error they couldn't avoid an accident in < 1 second. https://futurism.com/tesla-nhtsa-autopilot-report

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[-] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

I was gonna say that given that there's about 40k traffic deaths per year in the US, 700 deaths from Tesla seems low. But I looked up deaths over distance and Tesla is in fact in the lead with 5.6 deaths per billion miles. Kia and Buick coming up behind them with 5.5 and 4.8 respectively.

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[-] 50MYT@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Here you go

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[-] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 41 points 1 week ago

[-] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 30 points 1 week ago

Who cares, FSD is so safe that doors opening in emergencies isn’t really necessary.

I’m joking of course, fuck.

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 week ago

"You're crashing it wrong"

[-] Burninator05@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

They didn't put it in crash mode before the collision. 100% the owners responsibility.

[-] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 week ago

Wcgw when there's no physical override?

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[-] Formfiller@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

I don’t know why anyone would ever buy a Tesla

[-] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 10 points 1 week ago

Most modern cars automatically lock doors when you reach certain speed (like 20km/h). I checked and automatically unlocking door on impact is a separate feature that may or may not be present in a car. So I think you won't be able to open most modern cars from the outside after a crash. The only difference is that you will open other cars from the inside without issues while in Tesla you have to use other door handle in front seats and it's really complicated to open them from the back seats. Is that right?

[-] whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago

which is so stupid, who would break in your car at 20kmh?

I always thought the opposite would make much more sense, locking doors when you're below 10kmh and unlocking once driving

Firefighters always struggle more to open locked doors (duh) as much as I hate those, I don't think it's something specific to it.

[-] ano_ba_to@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 week ago

It's to prevent you from accidentally opening the door.

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[-] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 8 points 1 week ago

I guess they don't lock/unlock constantly because that would be annoying in stop and go traffic.

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[-] sadfitzy@ttrpg.network 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Engineers stopped doing things simply because analysts determined that businesses can make more money by selling products with complicated and unnecessary garbage.

Of course, no sympathy for people who get screwed over for buying a car that costs more than my house.

Another person who saw wealth as something to be used for status, not to help those who have less. Rest in piss.

[-] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Where can you can buy a house for $70k?

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 6 days ago

There are some real dumps in the world. The house can be fine but if the neighbourhood is bad it's going to affect the price no matter what else is going on.

[-] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

You can buy a lot and park a trailer on it for less than that in the midwest. They never said it was a nice house in a nice location.

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