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submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by Cevilia to c/fuck_ai@lemmy.world

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We’re now adding the option to allow the collection of detailed code‑related data pertaining to IDE activity, such as edit history, terminal usage, and your interactions with AI features. This may include code snippets, prompt text, and AI responses.

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So if I accidentally Cmd+V a slightly-sensitive string into my IDE, I now have to consider that string compromised? Even if I'm just doing some local testing? If I paste someone's name in, that's potentially me causing a data breach? What?

Source: https://furry.engineer/@ret/115305628217251579

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[-] hedgehog@ttrpg.network 29 points 1 month ago

Stating that this is on by default is misleading. If you or your company pay for the product or if you use the open source (“community”) or EAP version of it, it’s disabled by default.

The option is only enabled by default in one very specific use case:

We are asking our users to help with this, and here’s how it works:

  • For companies: Admins can enable data sharing at a company-wide level. To support early adopters, we’re offering a limited number of free All Products Pack subscriptions to organizations willing to participate while we explore this program. For companies that are not willing to opt in to the program, nothing changes, and as always, admins are in control.
  • For individuals on non-commercial licenses: Data sharing is enabled by default, but you can turn it off anytime in the settings.
  • For individuals using commercial licenses, free trials, free community licenses, or EAP builds: Nothing changes. You can still opt in via the settings if you are willing to share data with JetBrains (and your admins, if any, allow it).

For reference, the non-commercial licenses are the full, commercial versions of the IDE provided “at no cost for education, hobby projects, and open-source work.” The risk of entering confidential data into your IDE that could then get collected is much lower for these use cases… though still not zero.

Do those users get a notification of this change when installing an update? If not, that’s concerning. But if they do, and can then quickly opt out if desired, then this really seems like a non-issue. This is especially true since JetBrains makes it clear that being able to anonymously collect data is the reason they’re able to offer those products for free; thus why users on those licenses cannot opt out of that anonymous data collection.

It’s pretty clear that JetBrains is saying “We would like your data so we can improve our product; if you’re okay with that, we’ll let you use our tools for free.” And they also have options, free and paid, where you don’t have to give up your data. Seems like a reasonable trade for a person to be able to make to me.

[-] sicjoke@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

I just checked our JB account.

It was on by default for all my users.

(I disabled it).

[-] hedgehog@ttrpg.network 3 points 1 month ago

Interesting. Where did you go to see that? Did you have anonymous data collection enabled, by chance? I wonder if they tied enabling it to that setting by mistake or if something else is going on… Just to confirm, do you have a noncommercial account or is it corporate?

Assuming it’s corporate - if you haven’t already, can you report that to JetBrains? What you described is out of line with what they published. I would expect them to take it seriously as I would expect their corporate customers to be very unhappy about this, if it impacted them.

Just to do my own due diligence - I have a personal “All Products Pack” license. Of the tools installed, only Datagrip has an update to 2025.2.4 available (the version where this data collection was added). When I opened it for the first time, I was prompted to “Help Us Improve Full Line Code Completion.” I clicked “Don’t Send,” then confirmed that everything was unchecked in Settings > Appearance & Behavior > System Settings > Data Sharing. So for individual users, at least in my case, it seems it’s behaving as described.

[-] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Do you work for Jet brains?

[-] hedgehog@ttrpg.network 23 points 1 month ago

No, but I do know how to read.

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Apparently, Emacs doesn't do that. Nor does vi, kate, kdevelop...

[-] Cevilia 2 points 1 month ago

What does Ctrl+V even do in emacs or vi?

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

You can copy text in any editor, you know.

[-] Cevilia 1 points 1 month ago

I am fully aware of that, I'm just curious what the specific key combination Ctrl+V does given their unusual (to me) interfaces :)

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I don't think ctrl-v does anything in Emacs. Not completely sure about vi, but I think nothing happens there either. (By default, that is)

[-] eletes@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

In vim it's visual block mode, which allows you to highlight a rectangle of characters. Original vi does not have that

[-] colourlessidea@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

In vim it invokes vertical visual selection (visual block mode)

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Oh, right, it selects a rectangle, is that it?

I never really used that, it's not a very common command. Maybe for tabulated data, but that's not something I'd edit with vi... (or vim, nowadays)

[-] colourlessidea@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 month ago

Yes sort of I think. I use it often when I want to edit multiple lines at the same time e.g. adding the same prefix at the beginning of every line or in the same cursor position on every line.

[-] LordCrom@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

So they are asking coders to train an AI to take away jobs from coders?

Anyone see the flaw there?

[-] nothingcorporate@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Kate will never do this to you. Kate is great.

[-] baines@lemmy.cafe 7 points 1 month ago

that IDE should have already been on your company’s non use list anyway

[-] Cevilia 8 points 1 month ago

For what reason? (as if this wasn't enough)

[-] baines@lemmy.cafe 6 points 1 month ago
[-] roz 11 points 1 month ago

I thought they're a Czech company headquartered in Amsterdam

[-] Thorry@feddit.org 17 points 1 month ago

Yes, I work with people who have worked directly with the people at JetBrains. From what I know they are very friendly very western people. I can't imagine them being involved with Russia in any way.

I can also find zero sources online about this. The closest is Russia using security vulnerabilities in JetBrains software, as they do with all software. Security vulnerabilities that were handled appropriately by JetBrains.

There is however a very public statement from JetBrains about Russia and Ukraine stating they've pulled out of Russia. They got their people out and stopped anything they did there. Including work on a new campus they already put money into.

Long story short, JetBrains are good people creating useful tools. That dude made the whole thing up for unknown reasons.

[-] baines@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 month ago

you literally found the reason, it was not made up and it was banned

far as i know ban has not been lifted

[-] Dumhuvud@programming.dev 3 points 1 month ago

I'm gonna refrain from commenting on the "spyware" accusation, but it is a fact that the company is founded by (ethnic) Russians and the majority of their employees are Russian.

This is from their LinkedIn; check out "Where they studied", at least the top 4 of those places are Russian:

[-] SchwertImStein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

can't blame people for where they are born

[-] BlueKey@fedia.io 9 points 1 month ago

Can you give some sources for that? First time I heard of it and I would like to know the details.

[-] Dumhuvud@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago

Unsure what's the proper etiquette regarding linking to a specific comment on the fediverse, but see my comment in a different thread: https://lemmy.world/post/36788076/19733134.

[-] baines@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

no

i’m not giving you anything more than you could find with a google search

[-] hperrin@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago

How is this not blatant copyright violation?

[-] SchwertImStein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

it's opt-in

[-] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 month ago

My company has been trying to switch to JetBrains for several months. Fun.

[-] SchwertImStein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

why? ide should be a personal choice

[-] Miaou@jlai.lu 4 points 1 month ago

Unfortunately, many devs are too dumb to setup an IDE so having a main one makes maintainers' lives much simpler.

[-] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 month ago

Because VisualStudio doesn't like to play nice with our stack, especially the legacy stuff.

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