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[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 118 points 4 days ago

The rich have class solidarity. They're not going to casually fuck each other over like that.

[-] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago

But they're controlled by shareholders and why do shareholders want individual nut jobs running a company when and AI can do it. Not saying we're any where close to AI that can do this. But the idea is neat. CEO of these publicly traded companies seems like the first job that should be axed.

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 10 points 4 days ago

I assume rich people often keep enough shares to control who sits on the board, and thus who is the CEO. There's a lot of people sitting on multiple boards, folks know each other, blah blah blah.

Also many shareholders aren't really involved. I don't even know how it works if you own shares through Vanguard or something. I've never been asked to vote on company policy.

From what I've seen in start-up land, leadership is a lot of in-group bro times. It's all gut feel. Shouldn't expect rational, honest, decisions from them.

[-] anarcho_vroom@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 days ago

You should be getting letters or emails about upcoming shareholder meetings and proxy votes. If not, that's a problem.

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 3 points 4 days ago

Apparently Vanguard has a whole proxy voting system that I left on the defaults!

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[-] Artisian@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

I don't really buy this take. They have petty spats, noncompetitive practices, just like the rest of us. Seems like there are simpler explanations.

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 6 points 4 days ago

Solidarity doesn't mean they're all in love and never squabble. But it does mean that they will prioritize their class' interests, especially if it's in conflict with labor.

[-] tlmcleod@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 days ago

I think that's more coincidental than actual solidarity. They all just happen to have the same goals - pursuit of personal net worth high score. I'm sure there's some collusion between a few of them though.

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[-] Artisian@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

But CEO pay largely isn't in conflict with labor; it's in conflict with shareholders (namely, large scale investors). There are at least 3 fairly large groups of people who would all have to let the money run through their hands before labor sees a dime of current CEO pay. CEOs themselves (and, more broadly, C-suite), the shareholders (which you could subdivide by board-members vs hedge funds vs small investors), and governments (at various scales).

[-] InfiniteHench@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I’ve seen headlines where some CEO (usually in tech) had the self-awareness to tell their workforce that AI is coming for everyone’s jobs, “including mine.” So at least some of them know it.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

"We're all in this together" says the guy shooting holes in the bottom of the boat as he grabs his personal helicopter's rope ladder.

[-] RegularJoe@lemmy.world 54 points 5 days ago

For a publicly traded business, this could greatly benefit the share holder with a more efficient AI CEO to steer the ship.

[-] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

Less sexual harassment lawsuits too

[-] sampao@lemmy.ml 46 points 5 days ago

Now there is an idea. But the money that the CEO would be paid would go to workers right? Right?!

[-] meco03211@lemmy.world 21 points 5 days ago
[-] hperrin@lemmy.ca 18 points 4 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Real answer: because the CEO is the figurehead of the company. An AI can do exactly what a CEO can do except actually interacting with people. So the only necessary and “irreplaceable” job of the CEO is to meet with people and get them to make a deal or invest or whatever.

That being said, I don’t think there’s any job an LLM can replace a human for. Human’s aren’t hired as next word predictors. Even the CEO has more to their decision making job than making decisions. Knowing what decisions to make is something the AI can’t do alone.

CEOs are overpaid though. Their jobs aren’t hard and mostly what determines their success is luck.

[-] Cevilia 14 points 4 days ago

Because they don't actually care about "speed" or "efficiency". All they care about is having all the money. Every decision they make is in service of that goal, including what words they say in public.

[-] Corelli_III@midwest.social 20 points 4 days ago

Catching crime lords in hypocritical pretzel logic doesn't work. The issue isn't with their logic. The issue is with a society that allows itself to be captured by capitalism.

[-] tourist@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

Kick me in the brain stem if I'm on the wrong track, but I feel like it's by design

In general,

Everyone hates public officials taking bribes

Everyone hates streaming services raising their subscription fees

Everyone hates advertisements

Everyone hates big pharma charging $1000 for a cancer treatment pill that costs 0.1c to manufacture

The throughline is obvious, but I feel most people just take a neutral or dismissive (and sometimes aggressive) stance if you bring it up.

It's that cognitive dissonance that feels engineered.

I don't know how to fix that. Admittedly, I still need to do more reading.

[-] Corelli_III@midwest.social 7 points 4 days ago

I think our problem might be starting a slave empire on stolen land and then building a bunch of prisons instead of a society. Maybe next time, don't be born 17 generations into a crumbling colonial slave empire. That's what I'm going to try.

[-] zxqwas@lemmy.world 27 points 5 days ago

You would not want to use AI anywhere it matters. Only in places where it does not matter if you get it right the first, second or even the third time, like customer support.

[-] Strider@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago

We're going inception style now, but then ceo would be even more fitting, don't you think?

[-] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 4 days ago

It doesn’t matter, so … the CEO is perfect application!

[-] Artisian@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

AI is currently really bad with business decisions. Like laughably so. There have been several small attempts, say letting an LLM manage a vending machine. I believe they've all flopped. Compare to performance in image creation/editing and programming performance (where, on measurables, they do relatively well). When an AI that could run a business OK exists, you should expect to see it happen.

CEO's are paid so much primarily because the turn to paying them in stocks. This changed because of pay-caps for executives (so to compete for CEOS, companies offered stocks). The idea was that this would align their incentives with the shareholders. Unfortunately, this has lead to a lot of extremely short term company policy by CEOs, spiking stock value to cash out.

[-] Saarth@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

You see productivity gains have nothing to do with AI. It's being pushed down our throats because some elites have vested interest in its success and it's another way to extract more money from the consumers.

[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 14 points 4 days ago

Its likely the only use case that would actually pay off and it makes sense as the board of directors can have it made and maybe even do a lot of chief and vp stuff.

[-] hildegarde 11 points 4 days ago

Because the purpose of a CEO is wealth transfer. Controlling the company is purely incidental.

[-] Artisian@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

This wasn't particularly true all that long ago. Huge buyouts and benefits for CEOs are both quite recent phenomena. Shareholders had a much better split not that long ago, and the social/family dynamics haven't had long to change so drastically.

[-] Zacryon@feddit.org 7 points 4 days ago

This is possible and much easier than with the people who usually do the actual work that makes a company sucessfull.

For example, this chinese company has done it and performs very well: https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/ai-ceo-artificial-intelligence-b2302091.html

[-] cloudless@piefed.social 10 points 5 days ago

Because the first word of your question is "if".

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 9 points 5 days ago

CEO's are already using AI as a tool to help them understand their companies by dumping their company data into these models as a way to understand their companies.

I just don't see any company creating an AI to replace a CEO in its entirety, yet.

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

i said back when people first started talking about AI replacing workers... if there's one job that can easily be replaced by AI, it's a fucking CEO.

Might end up with more humanity in business decisions by replacing the empathy-devoid CEOs currently running things with something trained on a larger sample of people.

[-] Triumph@fedia.io 8 points 4 days ago

You'd probably get fewer hallucinations.

[-] Poik@pawb.social 4 points 4 days ago

It is amazing how human CEOs manage to surpass a 100% hallucination rate.

[-] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 7 points 4 days ago

Because an AI doesn't have legal standing. It can't own a company, close contracts, get loans, hire people nor can it sue others. It can at best act as a representative of a real CEO. There's still a human signing on the dotted line

It also doesn't come with daddies money and contacts to set up a startup and call investors.

[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 9 points 4 days ago

the llc is a legal entity and has all those powers and even free speech now. no human needed.

[-] devolution@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

I know. Right? The rich protect the rich. That's why. They have their own union and you aren't part of it.

[-] vane@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

What you do with money ? Give it to people so they stop working ? CEOs are needed so people earn enough money to survive but not enough to live or rebel against the system. Just like chickens. You cut chicken wings so they don't fly away.

[-] Sinthesis@lemmy.today 4 points 4 days ago

I think that middle management has more to worry about.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

CEO is a political position, not a productive role. The job of the Chief Executive is to be a high level influencer with lenders, high level clients, and other business partners. For AIs to fill this role, they would need to be established as more influential than their human peers.

While its certainly possible (and arguably the desired end result of Microsoft/Google/et al) to replace a C-level with an AI, the end result would be a machine that serves the interests of the operators (presumably Microsoft/Google/whomever) rather than the business for which it is providing the service.

[-] Nemo@slrpnk.net 6 points 4 days ago

Who's going to make that decision? The CEO?

[-] False@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

The board who determines the CEO's pay for a public company. For a private company whoever owns the company - if that's the CEO then maybe they'd implement the AI CEO then just retire.

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[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

Just set growth to 10%!

[-] slazer2au@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

Because we know language models can't run a business.

https://www.anthropic.com/research/project-vend-1

[-] Marshezezz 4 points 4 days ago

There was a study on that I remember about a year ago that seemed to get buried real fast

[-] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

Every one of us is utterly replaceable, including the billionaires and multi-billionaires.

For all the status quo that they push for, they don't actually do anything special.

You could take the average billionaire, strip them of all their worth and hand it over to some millionaire, and basically nothing would change as far as the planet is concerned.

This is not a scenario where we are all NPCs to their game. We are all players, but more to the point, they are as expendable and interchangeable as we are.

[-] JustARaccoon@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

Because they're the decision makers, why would they remove themselves from that position? Lol

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