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[-] qooqie@lemmy.world 128 points 2 years ago

The only way for libertarianism to work is if every human had only good intentions. Since that’s simply never going to happen libertarianism will never work. Just my opinion feel free to disagree.

[-] becausechemistry@lemm.ee 62 points 2 years ago

Libertarianism is a theory espoused to those with good intentions by people that have bad intentions.

It doesn’t work for almost anyone. But it super works for some. That’s the point.

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[-] ARk@lemm.ee 25 points 2 years ago
[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago
[-] Grayox@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 years ago

Its like when someone uses human greed as a reason Communism wont work.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Funny how that someone is often the same who assumes humanity is flawless when libertarianism! Could it be that those people are just greedy and selfish hypocrites? Nah!

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[-] Monkstrosity@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago

It’s just like socialism; great concept, but impossible to perfectly implement. That said, I’d still prefer a system where I maintain independence and freedom than any alternative since humans are inherently are own largest problems.

[-] Micromot@feddit.de 18 points 2 years ago

I'd prefer a system similar to what we have in germany right now as it is a mix of socialism and capitalism in a way that reduces the exploitation that free market capitalism brings. Complete freedom in market almost always leads to exploitation which is terrible

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[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Also there's the fact that nearly everybody's idea of freedom is drastically different and some people's freedoms infringe on others.

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[-] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 88 points 2 years ago

The difference is that they think that gatekeeping poor people from services in order to bring costs down for everyone else is valid. I've seen libertarians argue that the solution to tuition and healthcare being expensive is to stop helping poor people, because that will drive demand down and lower prices for people who can already afford it. I've seen libertarians argue that the solution to people scalping groceries is to let grocery stores price gouge. Their solutions only ever involve helping people who don't need help at the expense of people who do. Libertarianism is "me, me, me right now now now" dressed up in fancy language. It's the political philosophy of a tumor.

[-] SilentFury@lemm.ee 35 points 2 years ago

"It's the political philosophy of a tumor." Fantastic analogy!

[-] whofearsthenight@lemm.ee 35 points 2 years ago

Libertarianism is a great system if you're using it as a backdrop for a cyberpunk dystopia.

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[-] Vode_An@lemmy.ml 52 points 2 years ago

“We live in a society” - the jonkler

“Not if I can help it” - libertarians

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[-] Duplodicus@sh.itjust.works 40 points 2 years ago

Typically they argue the government is the cause of the problems (which is frequently correct) and the solution is to remove regulations that create the inefficiencies (which rarely goes to plan and frequently involves enriching them).

It's clownish just for different reasons than the meme suggests.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago

Their solution to an inefficient fly swatter is to get rid of it, spread honey over every surface, and offer to sell their services as an exterminator.

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[-] TheJims@lemmy.world 40 points 2 years ago

Being Libertarian means never having to admit you’re a Republican

[-] Grayox@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 years ago

Libertarians are just Republicans that want to smoke weed.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

Be fair. Some of them are republicans who are more open about not wanting age of consent to be a thing.

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[-] thefartographer@lemm.ee 34 points 2 years ago

You ever hear a libertarian complain about flying? Fascinating one-person debate about airlines and deregulation.

[-] RQG@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago

Believing Libertarians argue in good faith. 🤡

[-] Grayox@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 years ago

Thats cause if they argue in good faith they wont be Libertarians for long.

[-] beteljuice@lemmy.ml 26 points 2 years ago

Most "libertarians" are this dumb, but the old school ones at least attribute the problems to uneven regulation rigged in favor of the ruling class, which does jive with my understanding of what is wrong with the financial system. That being said, libertarianism wouldn't work even if they did get shit straight.

[-] ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago

The vast majority of libertarians are (in my experience) just conservatives that want to smoke weed. They believe a lot of the same awful shit. The rest of them have deluded themselves into thinking that a libertarian society is viable when it is laughably not. They generally consider themselves to be way more capable and independent than reality can support.

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[-] Monkstrosity@lemm.ee 22 points 2 years ago

I’m sorry but anyone who thinks we’re actually in a free capitalist system is delusional. The freedom is a lie they sell us to perpetuate the system.

[-] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago

Free capitalism leads to this.

If you had more free capitalism it would just consolidate into neofeudalism faster.

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[-] BustinJiber@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

How is it that free market's modus operandi seem to be attempting suicide every few years?

[-] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 13 points 2 years ago

It's not free enough!!!!

No joke, though, there are people who think that letting things hit the wall as fast and hard as possible is desirable. It's called accelerationism.

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[-] rumbleran@suppo.fi 18 points 2 years ago

The only problem communism has solved so far is obesity.

[-] Grayox@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 years ago

Why dont you tell us you have a paper thin understanding of communism without telling us you have a paper thin understanding of communism...

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 12 points 2 years ago

I think it's interesting that people always just jump to "communism is when no food," like there have been no famines or starvation under capitalism.

Especially when you can note that those problems with food production were basically immediately solved with the extremely deserved death of Lysenkoism.

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[-] _number8_@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

i thought being a libertarian was cool when i was 20 and wanted to smoke weed but didn't know how to get any

[-] grue@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

Zoning codes that restrict density are the opposite of a free market.

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[-] books@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

Let's be honest there are areas that would benefit from less regulation.

(Looking at you housing!)

[-] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 36 points 2 years ago

Creating slums will solve the housing crisis!!!

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago

And so will unlimited luxury condos priced at millions of dollars each!

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[-] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 25 points 2 years ago

I can't tell if this is sarcasm. The housing market is suffering due to "real estate investors" just buying out and renting houses that used to be non-rental. Investment is driving up the cost of housing significantly. There's going to be a reckoning as wages are kept down and mortgages keep going up though. Eventually rent to cover mortgages are going to be too high and it's just going to push out the small time real estate investors, and either more companies will move in or there'll be a small drop in pricing.

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[-] pgp@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 years ago

Let's be honest, this is simply not true. Regulation acts in favor of the weaker link, no area benefits from deregulation.

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[-] spiderjuzce@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 2 years ago

I kept reading that as librarian

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