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[-] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 116 points 5 days ago

At most employers, this is grounds for immediate termination, and rightfully so. Rarely are the credentials to view paystubs entirely separate from the rest.

You've now given your potential landlord access to a much wider system. In many places, the potential landlords are then criminally guilty of unauthorized access to a computer system, AKA "hacking". The potential tenant typically does not have the authority to grant the authorization.

[-] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 50 points 5 days ago

Yeah this is a massive security risk. Even if the landlord doesn't intend anything malicious, I seriously doubt they're putting much effort into protecting that information. Juicy target for a ransomware gang.

[-] bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip 27 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Even if the landlord doesn't intend anything malicious

Except, you know, determining that you're "eligible" for an 80% rent hike

[-] socsa@piefed.social 21 points 5 days ago

Especially since this has been an identity theft scam for decades. People post fake, too good to be true, rental listings on Craigslist and the application asks for SSN and a "family reference" (asking for mother's maiden name) and a weirdly small deposit paid by check. Now you've got all the info you need to steal someone's identity. And I assume this kind of thing has gotten more sophisticated in the digital realm since I was last renting.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 61 points 5 days ago

Should be rated and punished as cybercrime.

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 50 points 5 days ago

Why do we even have laws if they're not going to protect people from abuse? Shit like this is why people cheer for Luigi. People are just trying to get the basics - health care, shelter, food - and the rich are taking too much.

[-] Manjushri@piefed.social 7 points 4 days ago

Laws are to protect the elite, not the common people.

[-] Elbow1240@lemmy.zip 52 points 5 days ago

This likely violates the employer's policies too. At my employer, it's all single sign on.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 36 points 5 days ago

This is very cool and very legal, but only in the USA.
Or is it hacking by the landlord? A crime almost worse than terrorism, that can put you 20 years in jail!

Landlords are using a service that logs into a potential renter’s employer systems and scrapes their paystubs and other information en masse, potentially in violation of U.S. hacking laws,

Oh boy, those idiots don't know what they are risking!

[-] Nastybutler@lemmy.world 32 points 5 days ago

They'll be fine. They only use that law against people they want to persecute. They never go after their own class

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago

Yes of course, as long as it's used to oppress the poor it's OK.

[-] Triumph@fedia.io 39 points 5 days ago

Oh you want my password? Okay, ready?

F ... U ...

No that's it.

[-] PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk 20 points 5 days ago

My other half worked for a large retail chain in the UK. One of her colleagues (let's call him Bevin Koyle for no reason whatsoever) was a particularly tiresome dude - not a bad guy by any means, but just super fucking irritating. Very self-centred, happy to dodge responsibility and let a colleague take a fall, and a bit of a gobby twat.

Back when she worked the quieter hours and mobile data plans were quite anaemic, she would put her mobile phone hotspot on for her colleagues to listen to music or whatever.

This one shift, Bevin had run out of data, and already forseeing this situation happening, she had already set the password accordingly. "I can see your WiFi", says Bevin, "but what's the password?"

"BevinKoyleIsACunt", she loudly announces.

"No seriously," says Bevin, "what's the password?"

"BevinKoyleIsACunt" she once again says loudly.

Bevin is getting a bit fucked off now, and is like "stop being nasty, give me the WiFi code"

Not grasping the rudeness of his own demands, she says "I tell everyone the same thing, BevinKoyleIsACunt"

He stormed off oblivious to how helpful she had been each time. I still raise a wry smile whenever I remember how supremely helpful she had been.

[-] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 15 points 5 days ago

The problem is "Opt-out means no housing".

[-] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 9 points 5 days ago

And if enough 'opt out' it also means no renters. Solidarity.

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 17 points 5 days ago

It doesn't feel like there's any class solidarity in the US except between the very rich.

[-] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 16 points 5 days ago

I hear ya. And that's the message that the ultrarich would prefer you to hold in mind.

[-] salacious_coaster@infosec.pub 11 points 5 days ago

I don't want to live on this planet anymore

[-] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 11 points 5 days ago

What a shithole country.

[-] xia@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 4 days ago

If done before starting a business relationship, at least it telegraphs the petty tyrant for who he is. If it's a bait-and-switch, with all the inertia of moving your stuff and updating your address... ick...

[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

The article didn't seem to have a lot of details like which state this took place in. Re-reading it just feels like fear propaganda showing how easy it would be to extort data from renters.

[-] Dionysus@leminal.space 11 points 4 days ago

From TFA

The renter 404 Media spoke to said the same “credential-harvesting model now dominates Georgia rentals.” They pointed to other companies such as PayScore, Nova Credit (whose leadership includes an Argyle co-founder), and Snappt which also uses Argyle

Sounds like Georgia is at least one. You need the attention span to read through an otherwise terrible article to get to that point though.

[-] EtherWhack@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

Atlanta (so, Georgia) is mentioned, though I don't think it's any particular state as the focus is on two screening services landlords may use. (similar to how Sterling works for background checks, but more invasive)

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 10 points 5 days ago

The renter 404 Media spoke to said the same “credential-harvesting model now dominates Georgia rentals.” They pointed to other companies such as PayScore, Nova Credit (whose leadership includes an Argyle co-founder), and Snappt which also uses Argyle.

https://tracxn.com/d/companies/argyle/__jLSw-NS4D1Jy__cirwoXjwI_xhB1ADcBewGZRpNl6ds

[-] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Yeah, this needs to get regulated away right quick. But it won't.

Remember when "reaping the rewards" required "taking the risk"?

[-] Dionysus@leminal.space 2 points 4 days ago

https://archive.ph/uv4Yk is another link, for some reason the one provided didn't work for me.

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