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Russian leader Vladimir Putin has signed a decree for the 2025 autumn military draft, running from October 1 to December 31, according to a decree posted on the official Russian government legal portal on September 29.

The call-up will target 135,000 Russian citizens aged 18 to 30.

Vice Admiral Vladimir Tsimlyansky, deputy head of Russia’s Main Organizational and Mobilization Directorate, said draftees will serve only within Russia and will not participate in Russian invasion of Ukraine.

Previously, it was reported Russia is considering a major overhaul of its conscription system that would allow for continuous draft procedures year-round, as the country grapples with unprecedented military losses in Ukraine, according to the proposed legislative changes, introduced by the head of the Russian Parliament’s Defense Committee.

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[-] Witchfire@lemmy.world 81 points 4 days ago

draftees will serve only within Russia and will not participate in Russian invasion of Ukraine.

[ X ] Doubt

[-] Coskii 8 points 3 days ago

No no, you see, the parts of Russia that weren't parts of Russia 5 years ago is not invasion, it's defense!

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

Instead, they will participate in Russian invasion where else?

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 3 days ago

I think what's being implied is they'll do some kind of service on internal military bases, and the guys they're replacing get shipped off. I'd be very, very suspicious of that promise, though.

[-] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 93 points 4 days ago

The cost of allowing Vladimir Putin to live, is getting thrown in the meat grinder.

The meat grinding will not stop until Putin dies.

[-] cygnus@lemmy.ca 43 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Yeah, but it's always other people getting thrown in the meat grinder, it would never be me!

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 14 points 4 days ago

The people waiting to take over from Putin are not going to make matters any better.

[-] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago

The people waiting to take over from Putin are not going to make matters any better.

Best relieve them of the burden of leadership then.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 days ago

That's assuming there isn't a populist revolution. It's not like Russia is immune to revolutions or anything...

Yeah, the oligarchs are planning to take over, but that's also why they keep dying. Who's going to be left in the end? Is there actually going to be an oligarch capable of taking over? Anyone capable of it will be a target.

[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

Can't happen soon enough. It feels good knowing that most of us here on Lemmy will outlive this monster and get to dance on his grave!

[-] Ezergill@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago

As a Ukrainian, it's hard to be certain, unfortunately

[-] OwlPaste@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

Dpubt it will stop after, there are enough in his party to continue this and other mad plans. They all need to be removed from the gene pool at the same time

[-] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

I cannot imagine a scenario where allowing his inner circle to stay in power would be acceptable.

[-] OwlPaste@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Absolutely but how to remove them all at the same time? last time a purge happened was when putin came to power, suddenly a whole load of officials were arrested for bribery ect, mostly from other political camps.

don't see anyone unsitting putins party especially with the amount of ballot stuffing

[-] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

Absolutely but how to remove them all at the same time? last time a purge happened was when putin came to power, suddenly a whole load of officials were arrested for bribery ect, mostly from other political camps.don't see anyone unsitting putins party especially with the amount of ballot stuffing

Prigozhin was about to march into Moscow and take over before they talked him out of it and then killed him.

When Russian citizens finally have had enough of the bullshit, they will take heads. Any of the regime that is too stupid to scatter at that point will simply be swept away.

All of this can be initiated at any time.

I have an idea but it requires several pairs of simultaneously-activated key switches and will probably end humanity.

[-] sepi@piefed.social 2 points 3 days ago

No, the russians ain't got a single working nuke. They stole the budget for that. Now all they have is posturing and pretending.

[-] d00phy@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Need to do it the old fashioned Russian way. Get the military heads behind you, overthrow the despot, put him and all his cronies up against the wall, and then the next “strong leader” takes power.

[-] hanrahan@piefed.social 1 points 3 days ago

Many Russans seem to think that is their destiny, so they have few issues with it.

[-] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Many Russans seem to think that is their destiny, so they have few issues with it.

Then they should hurry up and volunteer, so that Putin doesn't need to announce recruiting drives.

Sign up, ship out, blow up.

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 71 points 4 days ago

It's absolutely bonkers, the continued death and destruction, no one winning... All because one old rich white guy won't admit he was wrong.

[-] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago

And all these suckers go and die for him. In a country of 100 million, not even one of them bothers to put a bullet in Putin, instead of being his cannon fodder.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

IIRC private citizens aren't allowed to own guns in Russia, and Putin controls the oligarchs that control the mob, so he has direct control of all the weapons in the country. In theory.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 days ago

I'm certain that can't be totally true. In remote areas hunting must be allowed. Maybe you have to have a license, but there's no way no civilians own guns legally. Also, there's a lot of illegal guns in Russia too.

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

That's the part I don't understand. Those Russian soldiers are being abused in unimaginable ways. And yet they just take it and let themselves be killed.

[-] Capsicones 16 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Russian soldiers come from poor regions: Siberia, the Far East, Kalmykia, etc. To many poor recruits the pay far exceeds anything they could get in civilian life. It's the same strategy as the US military: go to impoverished states and get those desperate poor schmucks to fight and die for you.

Russia has expanded the draft and seemingly can't count on volunteers as much as before. So the situation may change in the future.

[-] fluxion@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

One rich fuck with absolute power and unbelievable wealth and the largest country on Earth just HAD to have a little bit more land and destroyed the entire global peace to get it. The Mad King for GoT is less of a spectacle than this absolute disaster of a "leader".

[-] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 45 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Oh wow you need another 135,000 soldiers for the war. What happened to the last 135,000?

WHAT HAPPENED TO THE LAST 135,000?!

[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 38 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Last 1 MILLION, that's how much ruzies lost already (as casualties not deaths). Thats at least 5 times of what US lost during Vietnam war. Insanity and ruzi peasants sitting on their palms all subservient.

[-] meco03211@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

What access does the average Russian citizen have to unbiased and truthful reporting?

For those citizens with that knowledge, what actions can they take to organize some semblance of a resistance?

[-] Justas@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

What access does the average Russian citizen have to unbiased and truthful reporting?

At some point you no longer need reporting. Direct observation and word of mouth becomes enough to paint the picture.

For those citizens with that knowledge, what actions can they take to organize some semblance of a resistance?

What they need to do is a general strike.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

If they want, they can turn on their VPN and read the BBC in Russian just like you or me can read RT. Is it made visible or convenient in any way? No. And the story the local media tells happens to be much more alluring if you're personally a Russian...

For those citizens with that knowledge, what actions can they take to organize some semblance of a resistance?

Being political is not cool in Russia; they've had bad experiences both with government supporters and government collapse in recent history, and then Putin has encouraged apathy as a control technique on top of it. It sounds like the vibe is more that everyone's keeping their head down and hoping it just resolves itself.

Which is also why there's not more volunteers, they have to pay them literally like they won a lottery, and then they still get really basic effort in the end.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 days ago

You don't need unbiased reporting to see the funerals of your friends and neighbors. You don't need unbiased reporting to see the huge increase in gas prices —if you can get any at all. You don't need unbiased reporting to see that Russia is gaining ground literally several times slower than a snail's pace (a snail would have crossed all of Ukraine, and that was a year or maybe more ago).

At a certain point, biased reporting can only do so much. They know that things are wrong. They know they're suffering. They know that they aren't winning like the government told them they would. They just need to do something to change this.

[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

It's way past the point of truth searching. Russia is a fundamentally failed society and Russians know it. The people have given up completely.

The “only in Russia” bit is a bait-and-switch, because they declared Crimea, Donetsk, and Lunansk “Russian territory” a year or two back.

[-] whereyaaat@lemmings.world 2 points 3 days ago

Good catch.

[-] TuffNutzes@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

More meat for the grinder to satisfy Dear Leader with a Stalin complex. Sad for all the stupid loss of life and the wreckage it leaves behind.

[-] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 days ago

That's like 2 weeks of war extended

[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

Seems like a regular yearly draft

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