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[-] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 82 points 1 week ago

This has certainly never ever happened nowadays.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 53 points 1 week ago

Sure would be a pain in the neck if it did

[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Well, I don't think they will write such a banger nowadays, probably just some mediocre country.

[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 59 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
[-] Krono@lemmy.today 43 points 1 week ago

"Now, people, rise up, and let the storm break loose!" - Joseph Goebbels memorializing Horst Wessel, 1932

"...And the warrior whispers back, I am the storm. Erika is the storm. We are the storm." - Steven Miller memorializing Charlie Kirk, 2025

Steven Miller looks just like Goebbels too, those dead eyes scare me.

It's as if God is doing a (history, colorized) meme on us, but the colors are just the black, white, and red of the Nazi swastika.

[-] Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

People love call backs, even nazis.

[-] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Thank you :)

[-] primrosepathspeedrun@anarchist.nexus 41 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Maybe a cultural compulsion of misremembering and publically honoring the dead unconditionally isnt always good for society.

Yeah, I'll take my bans now.

[-] ech@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 week ago

Did you read it? It wasn't a "cultural compulsion". It was a deliberate campaign to turn the memory of him into a complete fabrication and a fascist tool.

[-] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

This is about propaganda, not culture.

Why would anyone ban you for that? It's not an unpopular opinion or mean.

[-] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 week ago

Did Goebbels have the answer to autism though

[-] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 27 points 1 week ago
[-] EffortlessEffluvium@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago

Hey! Mengele helped!

[-] Akasazh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Dark. I like it

[-] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago
[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Further controversy arose in the late 2010s over allegations that Asperger referred children to the Am Spiegelgrund children's clinic in Vienna during the Nazi period. The clinic was responsible for murdering hundreds of disabled children deemed to be "unworthy of life" as part of the Third Reich's child euthanasia programs (as part of the T4 Programme),

Wowee

[-] Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip 33 points 1 week ago

Nothing to be learned from here

[-] besselj@lemmy.ca 30 points 1 week ago

History doesn't repeat, but it sure as hell rhymes.

[-] Nublets@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago

Those Kirk supporters would be really angry about this if they could read

[-] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

They wouldn’t be able to understand the parallels even if they could read.

[-] laserjet@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

they're just like "this time there won't be a 4th panel"

[-] ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 week ago

I sometimes wonder if Hitler would have had any success at all if it weren't for Goebbels. The man practically invented propaganda.

[-] foenkyfjutschah@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago

you seem to underestimate the grumpy germans.

[-] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The incident that got got Horst killed wasn't political. It was actually kinda funny when you look back at it. Horst was a criminal himself and lived a fairly criminal lifestyle (he was a pimp and dealt with a lot of sex workers) and the communist who killed him was also a criminal. The chain of events that led to his murder was that his landlady didn't like him for not paying his rent, among other things, and hired said communist to kick him out because he refused to leave despite not paying rent. He was shot and his killers were... sentenced to 6 years!

Like wow... but they were killed by the SA after the Nazis got to power because the Nazis never had any respect for law and order.

Edit: it was manslaughter. Not murder. That explains the lesser sentence.

[-] birdwing 1 points 2 days ago

In short, his landlord killed him.

[-] foenkyfjutschah@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago

i'd say at times of lots of violent tension between Nazis and antifascists there is always a political aspect to such events. would a criminal Kamerad have agreed to the landlady's proposition? would i as a communist collaborate with the owning class just to bully a Nazi? maybe.

and pointing out that someone doesn't comply with all laws is irrelevant, both involved could have been in pigeon fancier circles, that wouldn't nullify the political situation and their allegiances.

Nazis never had any respect for law and order.

ough, of course the want you to respect their order.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Dang! I didn't think of him when this Charlie Kirk thing happened. That is the perfect Nazi Germany equivalent of the current administration.

[-] Samsy@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

There is more than just this equivalent. Sometimes I think we are caged in a repeating machine every 100 years. Enjoy the golden twenties as long as they are.

[-] individual@toast.ooo 10 points 1 week ago

why was he targeted and killed?

[-] orbitz@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

According to Wikipedia it was because a pub owner was trying to evict him due to non-payment of his room and he wouldn't move out. He was also a SA commander in charge of a several squads.

Edit guess I was a bit late confirming the wiki article but I will leave it here so people can read the only source I checked.

[-] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'm no expert on the subject and I wasn't able to find a clear account. Keep in mind a lot of effort went into spinning the story so the real facts might be long gone.

I've read:

-It was a dispute over unpaid rent

-It was political between nazi's and communists

-Wessel's chick used to prostitute for his killer

Who knows, it could have been a bunch of things.

[-] Zorque@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Honestly, it doesn't really matter at the end of the day. His death wasn't meaningful to the party he held allegiance to because he was important himself, just in how they could spin it so they could accumulate power.

[-] foenkyfjutschah@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

it was meaningful, b/c Wessel was leading the party section in a red, proletarian neighboorhod in eastern Berlin.

[-] Mirror Giraffe@piefed.social 5 points 1 week ago

This post made me realize that they portrayed him in the series Babylon Berlin, slyly renamed Horst Kessler.

[-] bhamlin@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

They've already gotten to his Wikipedia page. His listed home town doesn't actually exist...

[-] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Bielefeld? That's a real place.

[-] bhamlin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago
[-] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Ahaha... you got me. Now I know an in-joke next time I'm hanging with Germans.

[-] bhamlin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago
[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

History doesn't repeat itself. But it often rhymes.

[-] grissino@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Maybe it's time to rename this ship to commemorate someone who recently passed away...

[-] jafra@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 week ago

Thank you very much for this important bit of information, especially regarding recent events and developments.

[-] foenkyfjutschah@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago

before i got in touch with a relativationist here (he seems german), i jus' wanted to drop by, remarking that the font is too small and Ali Höhler -- Ehrenmann!

[-] BigPotato@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Y'all remember when the U.S. Army bombed Pat Tillman and tried to make him out to be a hero?

Not calling the guy anything close to Weasel but, man, they really tried.

this post was submitted on 23 Sep 2025
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