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[-] bizarroland@lemmy.world 92 points 1 week ago

This guy literally had part of his brain eaten by worms.

That should eternally preclude you from giving health advice.

[-] VoterFrog@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

Brain worms he got from eating roadkill.

[-] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago

He's a real life zombie eating brains of gullible people.

[-] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 week ago

Didn't he just claim that in a divorce court to explain neurological issues?

[-] Qwel@sopuli.xyz 23 points 1 week ago

Hey so, is this a normal thing in meta analyses ?

We identified 46 studies for inclusion in our analysis. Of these, 27 studies reported positive associations (significant links to NDDs), 9 showed null associations (no significant link), and 4 indicated negative associations (protective effects).

27+9+4 is 40 I think ? What happened to the 6 other papers ? I'm always confused by the whole "we ignored half of the studies and we won't tell you why", if they can also ignore some of the 46 studies they selected, what does the 46 number mean ?

[-] snooggums@piefed.world 24 points 1 week ago

They just ditched the studies they didn't like.

https://www.mountsinai.org/about/newsroom/2025/mount-sinai-study-supports-evidence-that-prenatal-acetaminophen-use-may-be-linked-to-increased-risk-of-autism-and-adhd

“Our findings show that higher-quality studies are more likely to show a link between prenatal acetaminophen exposure and increased risks of autism and ADHD,”

The study was funded by the agencies RFK Jr heads. He said this spring that he would have an answer in September, which coincidentally is the month after this study that he wanted came out.

[-] prole 12 points 1 week ago

we think the studies that confirm our bias are higher quality

What a fucking joke

[-] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 week ago

But that's ok, he realized this when being high on heroine.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I wish he would just legalize that, it would probably be the least unhealthy of his policy changes lol. Might also open up the door to some more reasonable substances being legalized as well.

[-] zephiriz@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago

Forgot brain worms.

[-] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago

Breaking news

Random person (me) links Republican Party of the USA to idiocy!

[-] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago

Kenvue lawyers right now 🫡😂🤣🤑🥳

[-] Hegar@fedia.io 5 points 1 week ago

Raw milk is way tastier though. The clearest memory I have from visiting the UK at 9 y/o was the milk from the milk rounds being unreasonably delicious. Like so much better i wasn't sure it was milk.

It's obviously not the right choice to fulfill the nations milk needs, that's a public health disaster. But I wish it was available in limited, risk-minimized contexts like in most of Europe.

[-] elgordino@fedia.io 39 points 1 week ago

the milk from the milk rounds

This wasn’t raw milk. It was still pasteurised. Just not homogenised.

Homogenisation mixes the fat in the milk more effectively so you don’t get separation in the milk which increases its shelf life. Your memories of the tasty milk were probably the creamy part at the top of unshaken pasteurised but not homogenised milk.

[-] Hegar@fedia.io 4 points 1 week ago

Ah, could be. There's non-homogenized milk that we get sometimes here but it's nowhere as good as I remember that UK milk being. Maybe it's just distant childhood memories being incorrect.

[-] reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 week ago

Agreed people shouldn’t be drinking it, pasteurization makes it safe for everyone’s immune system. Especially important considering the state of most factory farms.

BUT you’re probably remembering right. I’ve had milk straight from the cow (and cream and buttermilk separated from a just milked cow, as well as butter churned from said cream). Buttermilk especially tastes like quite different from the stuff in the grocery store.

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

Also, milk just tastes different depending on the cows, and how they're raised and fed. Most likely what you're noticing there is the difference between grass-fed and corn-fed. Cows aren't naturally adapted to eat corn; they grow better and healthier on grass, which is how they're raised in the UK. Corn-feeding is a primarily North American practice because corn can be sold at below the cost of production in the US thanks to government subsidies in place since the Great Depression.

[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

That milk is still pasteurised, it's not raw.

[-] fossilesque@mander.xyz 3 points 1 week ago

UK/EU dairy shreds my insides.

[-] walden@wetshav.ing 8 points 1 week ago

That's another side effect of acetaminophen.

/s

[-] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Don’t give them more stupid ideas…

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

that's because it hasn't had cream removed and it's not diluted, nothing to do with making it safe to drink.

[-] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago
[-] S_H_K@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

~~Autism was discovered 40 years before Tylenol was invented..~~.

Autism existed before the drugs/things we think created it?

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago

Copy and pasting from my other reply to this claim:

Please don’t continue to share this “fact.” I know it sounds like a really good gotcha, but it’s not. Tylenol is just a brand name producer of the drug acetominophen, known in most of the rest of the world as paracetomol. It’s been around since at least 1878, and possibly earlier (there are claims it was produced in 1852). Autism was first described by Leo Kanner in 1943. Obviously, anyone sane knows that it’s been around a lot longer than that, probably as long as humans have been humans, but the people you’re trying to reach with this claim are obviously going to assert that it first appeared around the same time that it was first identified, or, at the very least, that it’s appearance likely aligns with the invention of paracetomol.

[-] squaresinger@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Adding to that: "links to" doesn't mean "is exclusively caused by".

That gotcha would only work if that was the claim.

So the argument reads a little like "People died before the Ford Model T entered the market, so obviously deaths aren't caused by cars running over pedestrians."

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

Yeah, they could just as easily pivot to "Well, sure, autism was around before that, but it didn't happen nearly as often." Kind of like cancer and modern carcinogens. It's just a foolish line of argument that makes us look stupid.

And it's completely unnecessary. The evidence that autism is genetic is overwhelming. Anyone who is going to listen to facts already has the facts right there, and anyone else isn't worth trying to convince.

[-] squaresinger@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah, they could just as easily pivot to “Well, sure, autism was around before that, but it didn’t happen nearly as often.”

In fact, that was their actual argument. This is what Trump said:

First, effective immediately, the FDA will be notifying physicians that the use of, well, let’s see how we say that. Acetaminophen. Acetaminophen. Is that okay? Which is basically, commonly known as Tylenol. Can be associated with a very increased risk of autism. So taking Tylenol is not good. I’ll say it, it’s not good.

Within the rest of the rest of the speech you can clearly see where Trump goes off script and does his regular monkey-in-a-suit act, and he says stupid shit as always, but that up there is the core claim: "Can be associated with a very increased level of autism."

That's a claim that's totally not affected by the "but autism existed before Tylenol" argument.

The whole argument is a strawman, nothing else. And that's really infuriating because there are ample real arguments for this point. It's not hard to argue that Tylenol has no link to Autism. But making up a strawman argument and butchering to even tear that strawman down is ridiculous.

Edit: It makes me think that this meme wasn't actually created by anyone who is against Trump. It feels so incredibly dumb and easy to disprove that it probably was created by a magat to make fun of everyone who doesn't worship Trump.

[-] S_H_K@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago

Fair enough I edited my post.

[-] Wilco@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

Tylenol was invented after autism was discovered. This is fucking stupid.

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago

Please don't continue to share this "fact." I know it sounds like a really good gotcha, but it's not. Tylenol is just a brand name producer of the drug acetominophen, known in most of the rest of the world as paracetomol. It's been around since at least 1878, and possibly earlier (there are claims it was produced in 1852). Autism was first described by Leo Kanner in 1943. Obviously, anyone sane knows that it's been around a lot longer than that, probably as long as humans have been humans, but the people you're trying to reach with this claim are obviously going to assert that it first appeared around the same time that it was first identified, or, at the very least, that it's appearance likely aligns with the invention of paracetomol.

[-] Wilco@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

Quit being dumb. It didn't enter widespread usage until the 1950s.

People from the 1800s and late 1900s had heroine cough syrup and cocaine Coca Cola. Paracetamol and phenacetin had extremely limited usage ... something about destroying body organs.

Bots are gonna bot.

[-] squaresinger@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Adding to that what @Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works said: “links to” doesn’t mean “is exclusively caused by”.

That gotcha would only work if that was the claim.

So the argument reads a little like “People died before the Ford Model T entered the market, so obviously deaths aren’t caused by cars running over pedestrians.”

[-] Wilco@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

Argue with the drug makers, not me. Trump is stupid, RFK is totally fucking stupid.

https://www.npr.org/2025/09/23/nx-s1-5550182/trump-vaccines-tylenol-autism-acetaminophen

[-] f1error@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago
[-] ook@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 week ago

I mean, it probably doesn't but that explanation, "autism existed way before tylenol soit cannot cause it" is quite weak.

[-] squaresinger@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

People died already 10 000 years ago.

The Ford Model T was released in 1908.

Anyone trying to tell you that being run over by a car kills people is entirely full of crap.


There's real arguments that can be used. No need to publish weak crap that's easily refuted.

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

Tylenol is a brand name for paracetomol (AKA acetominophen). It was first created in either 1878 or 1852 depending on which claims you believe about its discovery.

The claim that autism was differentiated from schizophrenia in 1911 is unsourced, and seems suspect given that Leo Kanner first described autism in 1943, but even if we accept it as true, it still puts the discovery of autism after the discovery of paracetomol.

RFK Jr is full of crap, and it doesn't matter when autism was discovered, because it's genetic and has probably been around as long as humans have, but trying to pull a gotcha like this is just going to make you look stupid.

[-] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

Tylenol is a brand the drugs been around for a few hundred years.

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