Stop calling it an assassination. It was just another school shooting. : Charlie_Kirk

[-] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 84 points 1 week ago

The fascist media is pushing the martyr narrative HARD.

I have to use all my strength not to scream at brainwashed family members at how horrid this person was. Mentioning the school shooting that happened on the same day or the MURDER of 2 Minnesotam democrats (and their spouses) usually shuts them up though. I just hate seeing everyone i know getting sucked into this shit. They weren't a good person, they were not improving the world, they were dividing us. I will feel zero empathy for them. As they would have wanted

[-] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago

Did a surgeon call it a "miracle" the bullet stopped in Kirk's body, somehow making him Bullet Jesus?

[-] waterSticksToMyBalls@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Yes, Charlie had superman-like bullet stopping strength. Sadly for him, the bullet stopping layer was just behind his carotid artery.

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Turns out the bullet stopping power was the friends we made along the way

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 1 week ago

That's why it's important to always make sure you're at the centre of the group. An attack can come from any angle.

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[-] hOrni@lemmy.world 59 points 1 week ago

Don't call it a school shooting. School shootings are sad.

[-] pinheadednightmare@lemmy.world 55 points 1 week ago

It’s insane…. Dude was a podcaster. Yea it was sad like it is when anyone dies. Dude didn’t hold any offices or anything. We could talk about what he could have become all day, but all he was, was a podcaster that was passionate about his message. The amount of attention he is getting is ridiculous… as if he was a past president.

[-] Lumisal@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago

He also paid for buses of people to go to the January insurrection too. Don't sell his accomplishments short.

[-] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 week ago

and called for Biden's execution

[-] Lumisal@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Yeah but to a lot of people "those are just words". So I always bring up a key action of his too.

[-] hector@lemmy.today 6 points 1 week ago

And he did not go there himself? What a shocker. Just another manipulator playing the Sheep.

[-] Drusas@fedia.io 14 points 1 week ago

Because it has nothing to do with him and everything to do with any excuse to accelerate fascism.

[-] hector@lemmy.today 10 points 1 week ago

Shitposting podcaster, hate monger, using falsities to acheive social ills.

Plenty of people podcast without doing any of that, to say he was a podcaster kind of ignores the fact that he was a Nazi youth organizer.

[-] Auth@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

I hate hearing this. He was not just 'a podcaster' or just 'a guy who gave his opinons' he was one of the biggest political organizers of one of the most disgusting american political movements. His entire life was dedicated to radicalizing youths to vote for trump.

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago

he was, was a podcaster that was passionate about his message

And his message was awful, and he was exploiting college kids to create controversial content for his social media business.

[-] noxypaws@pawb.social 5 points 1 week ago

Yea it was sad

Fuck off.

[-] IndridCold@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago

I'm an atheist so I do think it's unfortunate when people die because I believe we only get one shot at life. We don't go to cloud city and do jello shots with Jesus.

That said, Kirk getting shot is clearly a case of fuck around/find out.

If you cuddle with a rabid badger, don't be surprised if it bites you.

[-] pinheadednightmare@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Fuck off because you don’t think it was sad? Or you think it was more than sad?

[-] eatCasserole@lemmy.world 53 points 1 week ago

Yet another example of how hollow and hypocritical all that right wing "somebody think of the children!" rhetoric really is. If he was a child, this likely wouldn't have even made national news

[-] kboy101222@sh.itjust.works 43 points 1 week ago

Evidence: the school shooting that happened on the same day

[-] eatCasserole@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Which I didn't hear about!

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[-] hector@lemmy.today 37 points 1 week ago

School shootings are just something you're going to have to live with in a country with a gun culture. I think I heard that somewhere.

[-] IndridCold@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago

That's what MAGA tells me. Thoughts and prayers are the answer.

[-] koper@feddit.nl 26 points 1 week ago

What if his neck just does that sometimes

[-] hOrni@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago

If it's a legitimate shooting, the body has ways of rejecting the bullet. He clearly wanted this. That's why he was acting so provocatively.

[-] Alloi@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

not convinced he wasnt a forced martyr. there was another angle behind him where a flash was seen, and then a projectile was recorded mid flight behind him. also a 30-06 would have blown his neck clean apart. he would be looking like he was nearly headless nick if he was lucky. but suddenly "its a miracle there was no exit wound" from 30-06......at about 150 to 200 yards? even if the recorded muzzle flash behind him, and the projectile caught mid flight behind him was doctored. theres no way a 30-06 would just "stop" in his neck with a small hole like that. physics would simply not allow it.

what they describe happening, and what we saw. would make sense for a 22lr or maaaaaaybe a 9mm. but thats also pushing it.

nah man. either they are lying abour the caliber and gun, the shooter, or the whole fucking thing.

also, trumps "attempted assassination" was staged as fuck. someone had to die to make it look real. the cavitation that would happened to his ear would have shattered all the cartilage in it, his ear would have been absolutely mangled. but it was magically healed withour a scar a few weeks later.

this whole admin is based on lies, never trust the story they present.

[-] Montagge@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago

I would argue that a 150 grain 30-06 could do something like this. That's a pretty popular deer hunting round, and I don't know that it would go through a vertebrae. Certainly wouldn't almost decapitate him. 220 grain would probably exit I think, but again it wouldn't almost decapitate him. There really isn't enough in the neck to go flying everywhere.

That's just me guessing from decades of hunting deer, elk, and bear with a 30-06. I don't do neck shots though.

[-] Alloi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

https://youtu.be/fFjWC6EP4wc

heres a 30-06 hitting a ballistic gel head with skull inside it.

blows the thing completely apart.

if it hit him in the neck, it would have blown a massive chunk out. at minimum.

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[-] Pandoras_Can_Opener@mander.xyz 15 points 1 week ago

He was a paid actor!

[-] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It was a school shooting in that it was a shooting that occurred at a place of education AND it was an assassination in that it meets the definition of assassination

The murder of a person (esp. a prominent public figure) in a planned attack, typically with a political or ideological motive, sometimes carried out by a hired or professional killer; a murderous attack of this kind.

Edit: For those downvoting me, please explain (in non emotive language) why you disagree.

[-] damo_omad@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Tis a joke

[-] TeddE@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

I'm not downboating you myself, but - on one hand you're not technically wrong - the collection of facts about that day supports both statements

The point being made by the original poster is that this event isn't something shocking and unique, it's something that was statistically bound to happen.

Fox and their conservative sphere have been mastering the art of 'spin' for decades. That is, they've found that you can take a collection of facts and make any number of stories, just by changing which details are empathized. Indeed, they've made this about the attack, and have used it to advance their agenda. Your statement is a 'both sides' thing and that too plays into their hand - that's why you're being downvoted. This post is about changing the narrative, not just adding details to conservative spin.

[-] SharpIntroduction75@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

This could not have been explained better. I hope that lemmy doesn't turn into another troll infestation.

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[-] regedit@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 week ago

Classic republicans. Only pissed off and do something when it affects them or is a threat to them.

[-] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I don't think they'd care that much if the victims were peasant class republicans. Not unless they could pin it up on some minority, of course.

[-] ZoopZeZoop@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Truthfully, I don't think they care about CK. They only care what the narrative can do for their agenda.

[-] Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

Stop calling it an assassination. It was just another school shooting.

How are you defining "assassination" and "school shooting"?

[-] Goldholz 3 points 1 week ago

Shooting is shooting. Gun go bang. People die.

[-] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 week ago

Your SO RUDE and need to be CANCELED FOR THIS!

-Anti Cancel Culture People who Defended the Sandy Hook Shooter because 2A!

[-] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

If only one man dies of hunger, that is a tragedy. If millions die, that’s only statistics. — Leonard Lyons' Stalin

If you shoot one person you are a murderer. If you kill a couple persons you are a gangster. If you are a crazy statesman and send millions to their deaths you are a hero. — Watertown Daily Times

If schools shootings happen because of gun culture, it a necessary evil that only the radical left would want to oppose. If a political pundit who defended that argument is shot due to the same gun culture, it was the radical left that must have been involved in some way or just took advantage of the shooting by using it to continue to criticize gun culture. — MAGA, probably.

[-] asg101@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

He was promoted to "Good Nazi" status.

[-] svcg 3 points 1 week ago

I don't see what a man who had a malfunctioning neck fountain has to do with shootings and assassinations.

[-] downhomechunk@midwest.social 2 points 1 week ago

Horst Weasel anyone?

[-] state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Shooting someone talking at an American Comeback thing is the ultimate American comeback.

Charlie Kirk Memorial