Personally, I think I'll be avoiding anything that starts with "Elon Musk's..."
Yeah, I certainly won't use any product associated with that muskrat.
Things would have to seismically change in the tech/business world for me to trust any company enough to put something in my brain. That said, if I was forced to buy one the last two I would consider letting near my brain are Musk and Zuck
Personally, I think I'll be avoiding any device that can control my brain directly and has internet access, regardless of the owner.
This is the one he cooked all those monkey brains for? Pass.
Musk: "Scumbags of the world are welcome on my platforms!"
Also Musk: "Let me put this device in your brain."
It'll never get into testing...
Everyone that would volunteer, doesn't have a place for the implant to go
i would say i don’t get it for the low hanging fruit troll, but fuck that. they really are just that stupid
Where's this independent review board so we can strip them of all authority? The crimes and abuses this project has committed against animal subjects should have gotten it shut down a long time ago and the PI brought up on animal cruelty charges. I do not envy the neurosurgeons and trauma surgeons who are going to have to try to save any of the human participants.
Do you have any more info about the crimes/abuses you mentioned? Interested to read on it
There have been some news pieces put out, but most importantly
... the Physicians Committee (PCRM) said records it obtained for the 23 monkeys used in the experiments reflect a “pattern of extreme suffering and staff negligence.” The committee said that the letter to the USDA is based on nearly 600 pages of what it calls “disturbing” documents released after the committee filed an initial public records lawsuit in 2021.
Now, CNN did link to Nueralink's site, but not to PCRM. That, to me, says a lot about who you they're supporting.
If you want to read PCRMs report, it's here. Because reading the sources is always a good idea.
A couple of excerpts here:
The first complaints about the company’s testing involved its initial partnership with University of California, Davis, to conduct the experiments. In February, an animal rights group, the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine, filed a complaint with the USDA accusing the Neuralink-UC Davis project of botching surgeries that killed monkeys and publicly released its findings. The group alleged that surgeons used the wrong surgical glue twice, which led to two monkeys suffering and ultimately dying, while other monkeys had different complications from the implants.
A note about Musk's use of propaganda in the face of truth (emphasis mine):
Neuralink executives have said publicly that the company tests animals only when it has exhausted other research options, but documents and company messages suggest otherwise. During a Nov. 30 presentation the company broadcast on YouTube, for example, Musk said surgeries were used at a later stage of the process to confirm that the device works rather than to test early hypotheses. “We’re extremely careful,” he said, to make sure that testing is “confirmatory, not exploratory,” using animal testing as a last resort after trying other methods.
In October, a month before Musk’s comments, Autumn Sorrells, the head of animal care, ordered employees to scrub "exploration" from study titles retroactively and stop using it in the future.
There's lots more in there and I highly recommend reading the whole article. It is from December of last year, but I'd find it hard to believe that things would have improved in the past 9 or 10 months....certainly not enough to excuse the shoddy work and unnecessary suffering caused early on in the project.
https://www.pcrm.org/ethical-science/animals-in-medical-research/pcrm-response-neuralink-claims
From the article posted in anothers comment:
Animal 11”: They were killed in a terminal procedure at UC Davis on March 15, 2019. Prior to this procedure, the monkey had a cranial implant surgically placed inside their brain on Dec. 3, 2018. Following this procedure, the implant became chronically infected. The monkey began to have a depressed appetite.
October 2018, UC Davis staff noted that the monkey was “missing multiple digits [on] both hands, [right] foot,” possibly from self-mutilation or some other unspecified trauma.
On Dec. 18, 2018, staff decided to “prophylactically or conservatively start [antibiotic treatment]” for the monkey after observing that “the skin was eroded” surrounding the implant. In the following two months, there are frequent observations of the monkey having a bloody, infected head wound from the device experimenters attached to their skull. The monkey was prescribed several types of antibiotics during this period. In January 2019, staff observed that the monkey had a “bloody head…dried blood around base at cranial implant.”
If people haven't figured out how to mitigate rejection of implants to at least 99% they shouldn't even be attempting this kind of nonsense.
I wonder if he’ll later say he only implanted people who were already dying with the devices.
How long before Musk decides to charge per thought?
For $8, you get to be able to have basic motor function. For $10 a month, you get the rudiments of speech. For $15 a month, otherwise known as Neuralink Blue, you get free speech (free speech limited to what Elon approves of you saying).
He’s hoping to make your life pay to win.
It's already pay to win. They're trying to make it pay to live.
And Elon is going first right... right?
Actually... you might be on to something here. He may already have gone. Might explain the erratic behavior. The dumb shit he says and does looks an awful lot like brain damage 🤔
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If you put any shit from this man in your head, you deserve what happens to you.
On the bright side, there will be a few less musk fans around after they are lobotomised.
Ooof. Well played.
Did they run out of monkeys?
No, anyone who signs up for this is one.
Elon Musk’s Neuralink approved to recruit ~~fools~~ humans for brain-implant trial
Interfacing with the brain is easy, we've been doing it for decades. Let me know when we can leave an implant in for a decade without it turning into a scar tissue tumor.
Although hopefully I'll have died of old age before that happens. Being able to plug in people is the basis of more dystopian nightmares than I can count, and I have zero confidence in our species ability to prevent those horrors from being reality.
We can't even get VR and AR right ans we don't even really know what to do with it. What are we going to use neuralink for? Turning off our TV with our minds?
What? Vr, while still a developing tech, has come a long way in capability, reliability and affordability.
I'm sure Musk will weep for anyone who dies in these experimentations. He's totally not a sociopath, you know?
Ok, that's neat. I wanna see him use it first.
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