webp is a fine format, blame the websites that disallow webp upload, but then proceed to convert the image to webp anyway
< Insert XKCD comic strip about new standards here >
Cloudflare zero trust apps allow webp images on initial creation, then arbitrarily disallow webp on edit. You can’t edit until you replace the image you already uploaded, and the system accepted.
wdym "terrible quality loss"; for one their lossless beats PNG
They had a better joke, but they converted it to a Webp and lost the punchline.
This depends, if your image contains a lot of flat colours (like a screenshot of a website) then PNG can actually give you smaller file sizes than lossless webp. But for most images (especially ones with compression artefacts) lossless webp gives smaller sizes.
Webp is good and this meme is shit and played out
its interesting to me that this is only really an issue on proprietary OS's (mac/windows) as i've never had an issue with any image or video formats when using linux. i use all three but linux is my primary OS. mac/windows mostly stay at work.
JPG-XL crying in the corner.
If Jpeg-XL was backwards compatible with older clients, it would probably take off. Like if the format embedded a standard jpeg image in the front readable by older clients, and then enhanced it with additional data at end of file readable by Jpeg-XL clients.
That'd just be overall worse, it'd never be smaller than a comparable JPEG image, and it wouldn't allow for any compression/quality benefits.
I really don't get the WebP hate, it's a good format. It's better than PNG and JPG.
Though you couldn't set the bar any lower without it turning into a joke.
Anyhow, to quote Wikipedia:
Comparing different encodings (JPEG, x264, and WebP) of a reference image, she stated that the quality of the WebP-encoded result was the worst of the three, mostly because of blurriness on the image. [...] In October 2013, Josh Aas from Mozilla Research published a comprehensive study of current lossy encoding techniques and was not able to conclude that WebP outperformed JPEG by any significant margin
All while having significantly increased complexity. The blurriness problem was inherited from the video codec webp was based on. When you can't beat an 18 years old format, don't be surprised when people get irritated when you use your position to get it mandated into a standard, while later stalling actual improvements (JPEG XL).
It's just tech illiterate being "oh no my image program not open this 10 year old new format"
> complains about lossy format
> meme uses lossless image
Am disappoint
To be clear, webp isn’t even a lossy format. I mean, it can be, but it can also be lossless.
Quality loss? Webp supports lossless.
What - doesn’t - support webp at this point? P much all maintained open source software has for years upon years, os x has for years, Android and iOS have for ages as well, even windows added support a year ago or so supposedly.
Like are these memes made by confused time travelers?
It's often a nightmare when sharing to chat apps to show friends memes etc
And it's more of a video format than an image format, lots of juicy attack surface
WebP has all the functionality of jpg, png, and gif while still being a smaller filesize. It has baseline support across browsers and devices. I'm no Google simp and work to de-google my family and workplace but this is a hill I will die on. Webp currently the best image file format.
For me it's HEIF. I love it because it's smaller and higher quality than JPEG, but literally nothing supports this format. It's annoying that I have to convert to JPEG or PNG to do anything with my images. Luckily HEVC seems to get more support on the video end of things.
HEVC is proprietary.
AV1 is what we need. And a lot of newer hardware finally supports it.
The first part is wrong. And the second part is mostly wrong. Stop whining
Pro tip: If discord is complaing your screenshots are too large convert them to avif or webp. Now you don't need nitro
Webp has both a lossy and lossless mode so the first part of this meme is lost on me
I hate that Messenger doesn't support webp. Makes sharing from Lemmy quite annoying. Signal takes webp though, no prob.
This meme is out of date.
I'm noticing that a lot of my memes are auto saved as webps, what can I convert these into so as to be most compatible and least likely to offend those that care about file formats?
I mean, if we're being realistic, everything I use supports .webp now. Hell, every upload on my instance Blajåj becomes one (not Lemmy universal, as noted by SatyrSack)
I'd recommend webp
Everything supports it and it can be lossy or lossless as needed.
Yes, I would like to waste 500 KB over the wire for an image of indistinguishable quality
Never understood why jepgXL didn’t win out
Because Google didn’t invent it, and Google decides what does and doesn’t get added to the Internet.
Not my fault that peoples pirated copy of Photoshop CS5 can't open it.
it supports transparency and produces small file sizes compared to PNG while looking pretty similarly. fuck Microsoft in particular for not supporting it.
To be fair, it’s not terrible quality loss, it’s just worse than JPEG, the main format it was trying to replace. It’s way better than GIF though.
GIF compression is endearing, though. It only has 256 colors, but it tries its hardest anyway.
Webp can be lossy or lossless though, and what kind of shitty apps are you using that don't support it?
hmm, I usually just change the .webp extension to .png, and most of the time, image viewers just open it without issue.
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