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[-] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 147 points 3 months ago

I mean yes this is bad, but America is not going to end itself just because women have rights. A lot more to it than that reductive take

[-] Zombie@feddit.uk 32 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

This is also part of it.

Fascism begins the moment a ruling class, fearing the people may use their political democracy to gain economic democracy, begins to destroy political democracy in order to retain its power of exploitation and special privilege.

  • Tommy Douglas

https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/Tommy_Douglas

Thomas Clement Douglas PC MP CC SOM MA LL.D (20 October 1904 – 24 February 1986) was a Scottish Canadian politician who served as Premier of Saskatchewan from 1944 to 1961 and Leader of the New Democratic Party from 1961 to 1971.... ...Douglas was voted "The Greatest Canadian" of all time in a nationally televised contest organized by the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation in 2004.

[-] Global_Liberty@lemmy.ml 93 points 3 months ago

45% of female voters cast their ballot for Trump.

[-] chunes@lemmy.world 32 points 3 months ago

And the majority of white women.

[-] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 74 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Honestly, if women, as well as persons of color and the LGBTQIA+ community, having rights and freedoms is such a threat to America - both as a country and a “way of life” - and they cannot coexist, then as an American I would happily say goodbye to America.

~What that means, and how that would work, scares the ever loving shit out of me, but no one deserves the shit America does to them.~

[-] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 35 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

If you're going to emigrate, you better do it fast. I wouldn't bet that it's still possible without significant effort ("hide for 1000 miles in a lead-lined suitcase in a car trunk"-levels of effort) in a year - locking in their population is a really common thing in dictatorships, and AFAIK confiscated passports (if you had a proper passport in the first place) are already a thing in the US.

Plus, if there's ever a mass emigration wave, many of the more desirable destion countries are definitely going to close the door to you. AFAIK it's already fairly complicated to emigrate from the US to most european countries.

[-] Mrkawfee@feddit.uk 13 points 3 months ago

Israel literally stops people from emigrating.

[-] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 18 points 3 months ago

I was thinking more along the lines of the German Democratic Republic or North Korea - Israel at least lets its Jewish population emigrate, but in many dictatorships, absolutely no one is allowed to. Not sure which it's going to be, Apartheit-style or North Korea-style, but if you're not part of the ingroup, the difference probably doesn't matter.

[-] MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 months ago

I remember meeting a guy from East Berlin soon after the Wall fell, he was super excited at getting to travel outside the GDR (we were in Kenya).

[-] Soggy@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Depends on how other countries (particularly Canada) would feel about refugees.

[-] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Judging by what I've seen so far, wealthy countries don't care for refugees even if they're well-educated people from the US. On top of that, the US is able to exert pressure on most western countries to not make them recognize the US as unsafe for asylum seekers, even if a destination country wants to do it.

Maybe something like Brazil might be an option, but it's politically volatile - next time it has a rightwing government, all the US refugees might be shipped back to the US. Seems like at this point, all the countries that are consistently willing to oppose the US are either not much better or too volatile to be sure that they won't turn on you.

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

It's not a threat to America, but to a few elites, christian fundamentalists, and white nationalists. They just convinced others to follow suit.

[-] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

I feel the same, but also fuck that I was born here and I will not be run off by goddamn nazis. On one hand I’d like to leave, the other hand would like to punch every fascist over and over until THEY fuck off.

[-] miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com 47 points 3 months ago

[O]n one occasion during 1989, Mr. Trump and I had marital relations in which he behaved very differently toward me than he had during our marriage. As a woman, I felt violated, as the love and tenderness, which he normally exhibited towards me, was absent. I referred to this as a "rape", but I do not want my words to be interpreted in a literal or criminal sense.[34]

[-] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 35 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Oh, America is not alone here. Plenty of places without even that one generation

Honestly, I have to suspect a giant coordinated effort against women and feminine aspect of life spanning damn hundreds, if not thousands, of years. Otherwise I cannot fathom and explanation of how things have gone so ugly for so long

[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 24 points 3 months ago

and that's the patriarchy. if it was the natural order it wouldn't require so much energy to maintain

[-] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

And a couple generations earlier (1920), women finally got the right to vote.

[-] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 24 points 3 months ago

We had to fight for the rights we have and you must fight to keep them.

[-] Regdok@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Wasn't until 1965 all women (of any shade) gained universal suffrage in the USA, with the passing of the Voting Rights Act.

Anyways, this is an interesting list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_women's_suffrage

[-] Beebabe@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago

This quote was so, so upsetting as a survivor.

[-] Pyro@programming.dev 14 points 3 months ago

Is the title a quote from something?

[-] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 39 points 3 months ago

Direct quote from Trump's mouth a few days ago. With regard to crime in DC while he's had the National Guard in.

Come to think of it, Melania was wearing a hat that completely blocked her face from cameras ....

[-] prole 3 points 3 months ago

Wouldn't surprise me if that was her choice in an attempt to prevent her face from appearing too often in future history textbooks.

[-] LadyMeow 14 points 3 months ago

Sooooooo depresssssssinggggggg

[-] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Republican America is just English speaking Russia.

Russia decriminalized spousal abuse in the 2010s and it directley led to a wave of women losing their lives because the police didnt even bother showing up when their partners were beating the brakes off them.

Legally, Russia changed domestic violence from a criminal offense (under Article 116 of the Criminal Code) into an administrative infraction with only fines or short detentions for "first-time, non-serious cases."

and if you can believe it, the champion of this "conservative, traditional values" policy, was a woman.

[-] jsomae@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 months ago

51 years is 2 generations.

[-] ZeroGravitas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Quote aside, Catherynne is a great writer and all around human being. If you like fantasy, look her up.

[-] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 3 points 3 months ago

I was born 1995. Yikes! I can't believe that.

[-] jsomae@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago

I think the regime probably seems pretty good to pro-life anti-queer christian white and east-asian women.

[-] MotoAsh@piefed.social 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

This is utterly stupid to blame women getting rights as the cause for the inevitable fascist takeover of the US...

I understand she's probably a great person, but using reductive logic even as an unobvious joke is harmful to idiots, and most of the country is idiots.

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