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[-] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 213 points 3 weeks ago

He made a competing black that anyone can buy, too.

https://culturehustle.com/

[-] Flipper@feddit.org 60 points 3 weeks ago

I'm getting the feeling he really doesn't like Anish. Every page I've looked at has Anish mentioned. The anal apocalypse is especially for him. The glow in the dark pigment is free, if you can prove that you are associated with him to share the light.

Do they have some big feud going on?

[-] lime@feddit.nu 146 points 3 weeks ago

most artists dislike the entire idea of copyrighting a color for the singular purpose of limiting its use to one person. some people care more about copyrights than others.

[-] oasis@piefed.social 17 points 3 weeks ago

Pretty sure vantablack was patented not copyrighted. It's also possible that is wasn't either and just was really hard to produce. Afaik vantablack isn't really designed to be be painted and requires quite specialised equipment.

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[-] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 26 points 3 weeks ago

Website seems to force a login to even browse the store?

[-] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

Could be a vpn or location issue? It's just a listing for another super matte black this artist made to fuck with Anish.

[-] Krzd@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

Weird, works fine on mobile for me

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[-] OmegaMan@lemmings.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

Same. What a ridiculous practice.

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[-] Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Hitting the back button takes me back to the page I was visiting. An annoyance.

Disabling content blockers seems to prevent the behavior, but then you’ve disabled content blockers.

I experience similar broken site behavior from other online platforms, too. I suspect Shopify is trying to annoy users into not using adblockers.

[-] QualifiedKitten@discuss.online 5 points 3 weeks ago

Joke's on them! They're annoying me into saving my money!

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[-] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 14 points 3 weeks ago

Culture Hustle's chrome makes not metal things look like metal, not metal colored, look like metal. Also Semple's glow pigments are intense.

[-] niktemadur@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

But first you must face the Captcha test to prove that you are, in fact, not Anish Kapoor.

Meanwhile Kapoor, not using a VPN - "Curses! Foiled again!"

EDIT: Has this ever happened to you? That's why I use AnishKapoorVPN, you are just a few clicks away from being able to jump through so many hurdles it'll make your head spin.
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[-] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 weeks ago

Absorbs all the light in the universe as well as other universes

Nice, finally something to fight Superman with.

[-] PrimeMinisterKeyes@leminal.space 6 points 3 weeks ago

Serious question: If his black is the blackest and absorbs all light, why does that gadget/ trinket in the second video on this site cast a gray shadow? To my understanding, it should either cast a completely black shadow, or no shadow at all.

[-] salarua@sopuli.xyz 24 points 3 weeks ago

The reason the shadow is gray is because light is bouncing off the other surfaces in the environment. The shadowed area isn't receiving direct light, but it is receiving reflected indirect light.

[-] Krudler@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Imagine how shadows on earth would look if our sun was actually a cosmic LED bulb array with 9 bulbs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umbra%2C_penumbra_and_antumbra

Any light source they're using isn't a single beam of photons, it's a cast cone of light. Actually multiple cones because mostly it's LED array lighting.

So there's an (effectively) infinite number of shadows because it's being hit by photons coming from multiple angles, from multiple little light cones.

The shadows form a distributed pattern behind.

There's other factors like scattering within the media the photons travel through (air) as well as refraction.

e: I tried to make it make more sense. Its about understanding that a light sources are cones of light hitting from many angles at once.

[-] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I don't know where you got that idea.

Your logic assumes there's only one light source, no atmospheric dispersion, light is a particle, and everything around the object is non-reflective. And it's moved to a white background, something we know reflects light.

Edit: This sounds bitchier than I intended so I'm adding in: questions are great and I upvoted you for it.

[-] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

On the backdrop you mean? That would be from light refracting off of other places in the background and converging behind the gadget, partially illuminating the shadow.

[-] Krudler@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Oh wow, what a huge memory triggered! The total prioritization of whiz-bang on that site.

Shot me back to 1998(?ish?) where I met an absolutely amazing artist who started with street and scene art, huge airbrushed murals, and moved into digital media. He was an absolutely drug-addled, unprofessional lunatic. But also the best, if you could ever as the creative lead, draw a circle around him. We made a lot of games that were very bog-standard mechanically, but he took the creative design to places nobody had been in terms of visual game design. I love/hated him and I affectionately called him Mad Dog and it stuck at work lol

This website reminded me of his personal side project Dr Wash. I remember him showing off his site to me, which at the time was truly a marvel of what could be done artistically on the Web. After browsing every section and page, I was left with one question to him: What is it you actually do or sell?? I meant it! lol

This memory hit me when it took me 30 seconds of mystery meat navigation, then no-scrollbar but need to infini-scroll down to hopefully find textual information that actually says something. Etc. Some things never change haha

[-] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

I see this posted a lot and I get the feeling that this guy just makes a big deal about the other guy being an asshole so he can make money for himself. He seems like just as big of an asshole haha

[-] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

Who knows. It's harmless drama if it's a marketing gimmick, or they could just be rivals playing off each other. Childish, sure, but spite can be motivating — the guy does make great quality products.

Like James Randi and Uri Geller. Randi made a career out of debunking snake oil salesfolks but there was no question about how much he despised Geller.

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[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 175 points 3 weeks ago

The SRGB color range isn't even close to bright enough to display how pink this color is, in case anyone's like "that's just pink"

[-] Okokimup@lemmy.world 53 points 3 weeks ago

How does one see it in person?

[-] Duranie@leminal.space 97 points 3 weeks ago

I bought some lol. It's a truly pretty, perfect pink.

I've made an unspeakable number of purchases from Culture Hustle over the last couple years for a variety of pigments and specialty paints (like Black 4.0 and glow in the dark and UV reactive pigments.) I paint board game minis for fun lol.

[-] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

I was just thinking, I wonder how these would look used on minis. Do you have any photos to share using these pigments?

[-] Duranie@leminal.space 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

pixelfed link

Unfortunately I haven't used any image hosting sites in years, so I did this quick. I'm open to recommendations!

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[-] lemmyknow@lemmy.today 7 points 3 weeks ago

Perfect pink? Don't think I've ever been sold on something so effortlessly quick

[-] alk 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

From experience, you walk into the barbie isle in Walmart.

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[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I dunno. The Tom Scott video said it's like doubling the jump from grey to the color you see.

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[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 76 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

For what it's worth, Vantablack isn't a pigment, it's a process for applying carbon nanotubes that absorb light. They don't sell the "paint" part by itself because it requires special equipment and it finicky. They don't sell it because then a bunch of social media influencers would try to spray their bathrooms with the stuff and make a bunch of videos about how it doesn't live up to the hype.

The owner of the exclusive license to use it for art might be a douche who uses the licensing to make himself feel powerful, but there is a justifiable explanation for why the licensing exists in the first place.

[-] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 50 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The effect is also completely ruined if you handle it, and the broken off nanotubes from handling it are a serious health hazard. It's expensive, dangerous, extremely fragile and almost impossible to clean.

But like mostly, having seen "Anish Kapoor" (which is the real name of the installation where that dickhead debuted his vantablack art), it... sucks. It's impressive in photographs, incredibly lame in person. And, it can't be cleaned without ruining the coating! so the dust from all those people builds up and just ew. You can see overlapping outlines, in some cases you could pretty clearly see the shadows from the contours of the coated object because of all the accumulated dust.

(also, and just on a personal note, he took nine years and did absolutely nothing conceptually interesting with it. Seriously it was the early-2000s 3D movie of art. Just one gimmick, repeated over and over with no change to the formula. "Look, it's black". It felt more like an ad for the lab that developed the coating than an art exhibition). It would have been cool if he'd developed the process, but we all know he didn't, so it just fell so comically flat.)

[-] Corn@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 weeks ago

How hard is it to paint an irregularly shaped object in vanteblack, suspend it in a weighted 5ft plexiglass sphere sitting on some ball bearings, and let viewer or motors rotate it so the changing silhouette fucks with perspective, like a 3d shadow puppet?

[-] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

"That sounds like actual investment into the art. Howabout instead I vantablack a heap in the middle of a room, leave it uncovered an let people walk around it? Same effect but soooo much less work for me, Anish Kapoor's straw-filled bodydouble"

(Seriously though, it was so lame. Even in photos, the effect was disappointing.)

Edit: My charming partner has pointed out that literally everyone that hears about Vantablack comes up with more interesting applications than this shit.

examples:

  • Playing around with the ambient reflected light to create images on the otherwise textureless black background
  • Do a darkroom, have people walk through it on a plexiglass sheet suspended above the void
  • Get statues of people performing elaborate sex acts on eachother. Paint them black. Put them against a black background. Call it "censorship" or something.

Bam. 30 seconds of brainstorming. And those are ignoring all the cool ideas about playing around with emissive light effects in a room with no reflections.

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

what the fuck is this even supposed to look like...? the entire point is that it turns an object essentially to its silhouette, and he couldn't come up with an interesting silhouette?

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[-] kadup@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

a justifiable explanation for why the licensing exists in the first place.

"because people doing it wrong would make it look bad" is a terrible reason. I'm fairly certain I can buy an OLED TV and mess with the settings and make the picture look horrendous - time to create a restrictive license on who gets to buy TVs?

[-] TassieTosser@aussie.zone 5 points 3 weeks ago

That's not the reason. The reason is that vantablack potentially has some military applications so the company that invented it isn't allowed to sell it. They got permission to collaborate with one artist to promote it. Amish has to ship his art to the company to get it covered in Vantablack. Everyone blaming him for a government decision just because he was an asshole about it.

[-] Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 weeks ago

Carbon nanotubes are real? I thought that shit was invented for upgrades and repairs in No Man's Sky..

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[-] Duranie@leminal.space 45 points 3 weeks ago

If the story is true, Anish Kapoor got his hands on some and dipped his finger in the pink, flipping off Stuart.

In response, Stuart released a glitter made of shards of glass. Lol

[-] Lazycog@sopuli.xyz 19 points 3 weeks ago

Apparently Anish posted that on his instagram! Mentioned on his wiki page under "vantablack controversy": https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anish_Kapoor

[-] Texas_Hangover@lemmy.radio 8 points 3 weeks ago

It gets funnier and funnier. Is this how artists fight?

[-] Texas_Hangover@lemmy.radio 44 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, fuck him! That gatekeeping asshole.

Luckilly, I can stare into the abyss without help. But still, fuck you! You don't copyright COLORS you fucking twat.

[-] Zachariah@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago
[-] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Honey Lemons facial expression makes her look like a horror movie character in this frame lol

[-] Saturnalia@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 weeks ago

And since then, people have created even darker black pigments. So the man is left holding someone people will never want.

[-] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

thought the issue is that ventablack is extremely dangerous to use, and Anish was allowed to use it as a publicity stunt and with proper liability forms. it's not a paint that should be available to the public.

however, the problem is that Anish is a bit of a cunt about it and no one likes him.

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

I will never remember his name. He will always be The Bean Guy to me.

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