Only material that is clearly child sexual abuse will be searched for and can be detected.
Uh-huh. And how do you search for something specific without decrypting everything first? This is fucking embarrassing.
Wasn’t the plan for the messenger to scan for explicit material before the messages were sent (and encrypted)?
I'm going off of a article by TechRadar, but essentially: yes. This isn't about breaking encryption as I initially thought, though that seems to have been the goal when the same law was proposed (and rightfully rejected) in 2022. Rather, the new revision is about making encryption utterly pointless through the virtue of scanning all messages on your device, as you suggested. At least that's my read on the situation.
Yup, that's it.
And so, where is the problem?... Your message is scanned. If it is illegitimate you can't send it. What is the problem?
How will that initial scan take place? On your device, or sent to a server? Once you give the authorities that ability, will they stop at CSAM, or will they flag anti-israel content as well?
The government doesnt get to read every message I send and see if they deem it sendable or not. Thats the problem
If you think this would stop at CSAM then you're naive.
What if they decide tomorrow that critisising the government is unlawful? That you get arrested for being LGBTQ? Send "Free Palestine" at your friends and have cops at your door?
If they allow this scanning, they just need to edit a text file to immediately flag thousands for having certain beliefs.
Besides, the real criminals will just move encryption to a different level or find different ways to bypass this.
Ultimately, there's only one solution for governments. That is to ban all encryption. And hopefully that's something we never see happening.
These same people are at the same time taking away freedom of speech to support a genocide. How do I know they won't scan for pro Palestine content?
They scanned your message and found you were critical of Israel, a team has been sent to your location to resolve the issue.
That's a fair clarification but hardly meaningful, and arguably much worse.
"Only the thing we are searching for will be searched for"
How do you know if a message has that content without scanning all messages to begin with?
The fuck? Do they think we are stupid?
Do they think we are stupid?
They definitely do. And they are partly right, for the average person this is enough to stop worrying
The average person wasn't even worried or indeed aware of this to begin with
They do the Kremlin defence, just shit out words without meaning, wrong meaning, correct meaning, more words, and everyone can find their "right" answer.
Here the gullible/tech illiterate can get their "right" answer.
They should just mandate that the child pornographers set the evil bit. It would save the EU leaders the trouble of learning how cryptography works.
EU: We are not going to read your chats or look at your photos, we just stop the CP.
People: so how will you know what chats and photos contain CP?
EU: Just trust me bro...
Yeah we all know that's BS. "Child porn only" will become "anything illegal" which will become "whatever we want" and SL"with a warrant" will become "all the time"
DNA testing started out that way, and went exactly as predicted.
The only way it will go indeed
I'm actually starting to think 25/7 monitoring of all digital communications is actually a good idea.
For politicians.
It's the only way to sure they're accountable to the public. This should be the trade off. You enter into politics and literally the only privacy you ever have is when you're in the bathroom.
Every fart, sneeze, cough, every email you send, every text you send on a phone, website you visit, is public record.
there will always be burner phones
Good luck getting one under 24/7 surveillance.
Prisons are full of contraband. I imagine it's just that much easier on the outside.
They always use sex crimes and "the worst of the worst" as an excuse. Always. Then they come after political dissidents and the vulnerable.
The wording of that message wiggles around a lot. When you read it again, you realize there can be:
This is the language of some one who knows is guilty
"do not read this comment"
The only way to know not to read it is to read it
Why doesn't any group of people get that it's OUR devices abd not THEIRS.
Ok listen some of you will have to become politicians & get them life-imprisonment sentences
It will just start with those, then slowly increase their right
This is absolutely a bad idea that shouldn't be implemented. However, everyone who is continuing to push fo the digital spying with the rhetoric like that needs to be checked thoroughly. Statistically, I can almost guarantee that their hard drives is full of child porn and their basements are full of skeletons.
If this were just hash checks running on the local device before it's encrypted and sent I could accept it. Using AI is a step too far.
No, even this should not be applied or sent anywhere. It's my phone I decide what it does, no one else. I paid for it with my money
I think refusing to send anything that's on the hash list wouldn't be far enough for the EU.
Can we assassinate these fucks next please?
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