Well, I think the ICE raids are actual violence, and so if I see one I goddamn well will videotape it.
"Full extent of the law"
So not at all? Because it's completely legal? Or the new law where everything this administration does is legal but if you complain, straight to El Salvador?
"Full extent of ~~the law~~ what we can convince a judge to let us get away with"
Which is basically anything, if it makes it to the Supreme Court.
These guys will crumple when exposed to actual violence.
Can’t wait for that day
It's coming.
Fascists are always overthrown. Through a combination of their own stupidity and the effort of anti-fascists.
The frustrating part is not knowing whether it'll be one of the quick historical instances of fascists being put down or one of the long, drawn out ones.
It's going to be long and drawn-out. There are a lot of fascists in this country that need "reeducation". This instruction will require speaking in the only language they understand and this time we need to get all of them, not ship them off to some other country where they can take root.
My theory: they already have but they're being covered under the guise of intruders pretending to be ICE getting iced. People are already fighting back.
100%
Fascists.
Simultaneously big bad bullies and little pussy bitches.
"Doxing"?? I had no idea that these fedpigs had any reasonable expectation of privacy while carrying out their fascist kidnappings in public, using public funds.
They know they're the bad guys. They don't like it when we talk about it? Noted.
These are public servants at best, and we deserve to know the identity of the people who detain us. Period.
If filming ice agents get you arrested anyway, then might as well go all the way and get arrested for something worthwhile.
hey now, pigs are awesome. Don't insult piggos by called them american "justice" officers.
Criminalize nonviolent resistance, expect violence.
It's unsettling that this is the goal, clearly. It won't matter what the pretext once the violence starts, they will use it to justify escalation and further overreach, and they won't acknowledge hypocrisy or try to justify it at that point, they'll just do what they always planned.
Their goal is power. They will use all possible avenues to achieve it, and they will wield it to the extent they have it-- if even just for its own sake. We also have to fight with all means at our disposal.
Spot on, they will tell you 'peacefully' and 'with civility' is the only way to acceptably oppose what are entirely unacceptable circumstances. They (both the fascists and their enablers, and paid opposition) need us to respond to unabashed barbarity and inhumanity meekly because they know the other way actually works. People need to read about how rights were won literally any time in human history, and I assure you it wasn't quietly.
So if videotaping carries the same punishment as actually defending your community...
Wait, people still use videotape???
I still have my old VHS camcorder .... just hollow it out and install a shotgun inside it
Film in 8mm like a fetishist
Still easier than burning a laserdisc.
Some of us will continue to use outdated language till we die. Videotaping is what I will always call it.
In one incident, ICE targeted a Georgia-based journalist, Mario Guevara
You better believe he's gonna be deported with a name like that.
Does that go for all cops or just DHS' favorite little pieces of shit?
“We will prosecute those who illegally harass ICE agents to the fullest extent of the law.”
This must be the paradoxical sentence of the year.
Weak bitches
It IS violence: illegal, fascist violence. Which is why it needs to be video recorded.
Try to stop me, you fucking pussies.
What if the recording device is also a legally owned gun?
The myth of privacy built the stage for this performance. Now they are deciding which exposure is violence.
Then they better get ready to experience some war crimes.
"We need some muscle over here!"
"recording me committing violence is violence"
I'm just waiting for the Department of Homeland Security to be renamed Department of Homeland Subjugation.
The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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