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[-] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 1 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Am I the only one who thought that was a really shiny grasshopper?

[-] BootLoop@sh.itjust.works 23 points 3 days ago

What use is the Fahrenheit measurement though? I thought only one or two countries use it.

[-] _stranger_@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago

Two countries and crickets apparently.

[-] TargaryenTKE@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Just as God intended

[-] Routhinator@startrek.website 7 points 3 days ago

US and ... maybe Israel? Those are the two countries that use the US "Simple English" while the rest of us know what a U is for and how to say Z... so if they also both used F that would track.

[-] arnitbier@sh.itjust.works 91 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I dont like this nonsense. They never tell you what constitutes a chirp, is it chirp chirp? Is it each chirp cause that means its 140°. Like have you ever tried to actually use this in RL? It simply doesn't work.

Its for a very specific region and a very particular cricket. So its bullshit to pass it off like some natural law

[-] rebelsimile@sh.itjust.works 46 points 3 days ago

You’re telling me you cant keep track of 30-45 simple chirps off a standard reference cricket in a 15 second period? Did you even go to school dude?

[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

standard reference cricket

Fuck

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 days ago

You’re telling me you cant keep track of 30-45 simple chirps off a standard reference cricket in a 15 second period?

That depends on whether it's a frictionless sphere.

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[-] IndiBrony@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago

Counting the negative chirps is the worst. Like, why is there a -20ch marker if it's never -20?

[-] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 days ago

Cricket will go "yeeep" if the temperature is in the negative Fahrenheit

[-] Droechai@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 days ago

Check out Cricketunes cry for a great cricket sound

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[-] quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 76 points 3 days ago
[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 29 points 3 days ago
[-] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 days ago

Wtf is going on with Dalton

[-] Neverclear@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 days ago

It's a logarithmic scale based on Kelvin, but with constants shoved in there so 0 and 100 would agree with Celsius.

https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/459851/john-daltons-temperature-scale

[-] spazzman6156@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago

I'm more confused about Galen. -4 to 4, 0 is "normal"? 50 c is "normal"? For what??

[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 4 points 3 days ago

In Galen's scale, the 0 point is 22 °C, an alright room temperature, but the others are described too vaguely for us to convert. It might also be nonlinear. See the explainxkcd.com article

[-] spazzman6156@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

Ohh ok thanks for that link! So it is non linear. But not even a consistent curve like log, just if less than zero some factor, if positive a different one. Yuck.

[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

That's the conjecture by Randall and Explain XKCD wiki editors. We can't tell either way, he just wasn't specific enough. All we know is that 0 on the scale is 22 °C and that it goes 4 steps up to "very hot" and 4 steps down to "very cold".

[-] multifariace@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

His degrees X would be a good way to show changes over long periods of time by simply graphing the annual adjustments.

[-] DancingBear@midwest.social 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I dunno, out of all the uses of metric system, Fahrenheit seems the more logical than the rest…

Metric temperature as Celsius is just as random as any other made up system of temperature measurement. Fahrenheit used the temperature of the human body to create his system, which makes a lot more sense than other systems.

I think our measurement of time for example is way more backwards than the fahrenheit system…

Kilometers and centimeters and distance totally makes more sense in metric but I am an American (USA American) and inches and miles are easier for me because of it ngl

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 hours ago

huh? how is the freezing point and boiling point of water made up? how is the temperature of the human body better in any way?

The freezing and boiling points of water are by far the most logical reference points since anyone who wants to calibrate a thermometer will have access to water, and needs only go to the nearest ocean and bring some water to freezing and then boiling and making marks at each.

Celsius is the precise opposite of random.

[-] DancingBear@midwest.social 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

They are both random and arbitrary. Using the human body as a standard is probably useful for medical purposes… using water as a standard is probably useful for other purposes…

Considering temperature itself is dependent on other variables like atmosphere, any temerature system is going to be random and arbitrary…

Kelvin at least has a theoretical bottom for the coldest something can get maybe? But still, Kelvin is also arbitrary because it uses Celsius as a standard, which is random and arbitrary…

Why would you use a complex molecule like water? Why not hydrogen? Why would you use one earth atmosphere as a standard? Why not a vacuum?

It’s all random and arbitrary, sorry if you can’t see it.

[-] MrVilliam@sh.itjust.works 21 points 3 days ago

Fahrenheit used the temperature of the human body to create his system, which makes a lot more sense than other systems.

What is 0°F in terms of the human body? I'm guessing that 100°F is supposed to be a normal human body temperature, but in reality that will vary from person to person and everybody I've met is usually 97-99 unless they have a fever.
In Celsius/Centigrade, 0° is the freezing point of water at 1 atmosphere of pressure, and 100° is the boiling point.
In Kelvin, 0 is absolute zero, and it scales with Celsius/Centigrade because anchoring it to water just makes sense.

Fahrenheit is fucking silly and people only defend it because it's what they were familiar with growing up, so they teach the next generation the same thing, thus perpetuating the cycle of tradition for the sake of tradition.

[-] DancingBear@midwest.social 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

From Wikipedia: ——————— Several accounts of how he originally defined his scale exist, but the original paper suggests the lower defining point, 0 °F, was established as the freezing temperature of a solution of brine made from a mixture of water, ice, and ammonium chloride (a salt).[2][3] The other limit established was his best estimate of the average human body temperature, originally set at 90 °F, then 96 °F (about 2.6 °F less than the modern value due to a later redefinition of the scale).[2] ———-

Any measurement of temperature is going to be relative to the atmospheric pressure among other variables… I’m not a scientist but Celsius is just as random… it may make more sense because freezing water and boiling water make sense to you with a refrigerator and stove… for most of human history this would not have made any sense…..

There’s uses of metric that make a lot more sense, it is not my intention to defend imperial systems of measurement or whatever they are called, it is interesting to me though….

What are the measurements we can define where if we met a completely alien race from another solar system where we could immediately agree on the system… that’s probably the best one lol

Kelvin does make sense with the absolute zero thing, in my opinion at least… now I need to look up if there is a maximum temperature. And whether it matters lol… matter would probably fall apart at that temperature in which case it doesn’t matter anyways haha (edit: I just learned that Kelvin uses the same scale as Celsius apparently)

Get it? It wouldn’t matter 😂

[-] Neverclear@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 days ago

There is a theoretical max temperature, the Planck Temperature ≈ 1.416 x 10^42 K. It's the temperature at which the wavelength of emitted light is the Planck length.

Basically, a system at planck temperature probably would consist of many tiny black holes, and adding energy to said system would create a larger black hole, thereby lowering the temperature.

[-] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 1 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

That sounds like a misconception based on the misconception that the Planck Length is the smallest distance possible. Admittedly, I dropped out of physics 10 years ago so I might have no idea what I'm talking about.

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[-] Iunnrais@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

I agree with you, except that I think the time system is great. It was deliberately designed to be maximally divisible, and makes a lot of sense in that manner. 12 hours of daylight— a highly divisible number, with 60 small (minuscule, or “minute”) divisions of the hour, which is even MORE divisible than 12. Then when time keeping got more accurate, they added a second division of 60 more parts, and… well, called ‘em seconds.

Basically, 12 and 60 are just so divisible they make really good bases.

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[-] FlowerFan@piefed.blahaj.zone 74 points 3 days ago

least convoluted way to measure a US measurement system

[-] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 61 points 3 days ago

Is that an AI generated thermometer? The scaling makes no sense whatsoever lol

[-] Stillwater@sh.itjust.works 25 points 3 days ago

It makes absolutely no sense lol. Definitely AI

[-] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 3 days ago

No, it's what happens of you don't use a metric unit

[-] ThunderComplex@lemmy.today 13 points 3 days ago

No mate look on the right side, the number 20 is repeated. Ye imperial units are fucked but we are not at a point where 20 Celsius is equal to 2 different Fahrenheit values.

[-] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 days ago

look on the right side

Thanks! I looked at the wrong side at first

No, I was just kidding, including the first comment. Both sides are messed up, it was a variation of the "anything but metric" meme.

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[-] vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 days ago

This is bullshit

[-] Zerush@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

In Celsius it is chirps in 8 seconds + 5 (Dolbear's Law), but if you listen a single "Chirpffffffsss", than better stay at home

[-] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 1 points 23 hours ago

About half the time and an easier addition? Metric wins again.

[-] Zerush@lemmy.ml 2 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

As always, metrics with clear rules are always better as random metrics by bodyparts of an King in the past, apart avoiding errors. Ask the NASA, crashing 2 Mars probes using the Imperial system.

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[-] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Exactly. Quick image search will show you that cricket looks like this:

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 17 points 3 days ago

Crickets in Antarctica be like: prihc

[-] xylol@leminal.space 19 points 3 days ago

We should stop using Fahrenheit and Celsius and use chirp

[-] yesman@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

I was trying to think of any situation where this would be useful and the only thing I come up with is a way to keep kids occupied during a camping trip.

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