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[-] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 134 points 11 months ago

All of a sudden gun control sounds good to the fascists. Very very weird.

[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 79 points 11 months ago

Fascists love gun restrictions

[-] nul9o9@lemmy.dbzer0.com 51 points 11 months ago

A number of gun restrictions were implemented to disarm minorities in America.

[-] Hayduke@lemmy.world 37 points 11 months ago

Yeah, Black Panthers with firearms was making law enforcement too uneasy.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulford_Act

I have seriously had arguments with conservatives that systemic racism isn’t an issue in this country. If anything, they feel that they are the victims. Pretty wild.

[-] SCmSTR 9 points 11 months ago

Liberty for me, but not for thee

[-] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 130 points 11 months ago

The article claims the perpetrator was trans. They conveniently left out that they detransitioned and fell into nazi and fascist ideology.

[-] grasshopper_mouse@lemmy.world 95 points 11 months ago

Meanwhile, and I note this as a veteran of the Iraq war myself, 28.5% of mass shooters had a military background, but they're not coming after veterans for THEIR guns.

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

only 7.4% of americans serve in the military. while i know that's not how statistics work, it seems to be a significant marker. like, i know more than a few former marines who like to talk about luring people onto gold mines because they think then it's somehow legal to murder them.

[-] Redacted@lemmy.zip 7 points 11 months ago

Can you explain the gold mine "logic"? Ive never heard that one

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

i honestly think they just think if they're underground no one will hear the shot and the legality has something to do with mining law. it's sovcit bullshit.

[-] Redacted@lemmy.zip 11 points 11 months ago

Well you see I impaled them with a flag that has gold frill, so its actually under maritime law and since you arent a boat you cant arrest me, officer. 🤡

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

I didn't murder them, I unlifed them officer. that's accredited. you're accredited to unlife people in gold mines yes sir. I'm not in trouble a little bit. i'm bona fide.

[-] gdog05@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

From my understanding, gold mines (doesn't even have to be a mine, just a gold claim of any type) have certain legal exemptions for trespassing from the olden days. At least in most areas that I'm aware of. It's basically the Castle Doctrine but can be applied if it seems like another person is even attempting to visit your claim. Not much room for concerns of "what happened?" when the only question that needs answered is "were they there?"

[-] Redacted@lemmy.zip 7 points 11 months ago

Oh it being antiquated law makes a ton of sense for the sov cit idiocy

[-] Know_not_Scotty_does@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

Well yeah, they have guns and know how to use them.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Also the army can be sort of traumatizing for some reason. And the healthcare when they get back isn't . . great.

[-] scintilla@crust.piefed.social 4 points 11 months ago

And they're making it worse. Because remember the republican party fucking hates Vetran's even if they say otherwise.

[-] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago

why bother? can't afford guns if they just leave veterans to die after discharge

[-] art@lemmy.world 45 points 11 months ago

I'm sure the 2nd amendment folks are making a big fuss about this, right? Right?!

[-] AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 39 points 11 months ago

If you're trans, this is your signal to buy a gun ASAP.

[-] kibiz0r@midwest.social 6 points 11 months ago

I’m conflicted about this advice.

If we do end up in a civil war scenario, it’s important that gun ownership is not severely lopsided against vulnerable groups.

But in the meantime, gun ownership is a massive risk factor for suicide (attempts and fatalities), and trans folks are at a higher risk in the first place.

[-] AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 4 points 11 months ago

I do agree that suicide is a risk, and that guns increase the risk by making it very easy, 100%. I'm not gunna choose a side for you either, it's a hard one.

I do want to note two things though. It doesn't need to be a full blown civil war for them to start abusing and arresting trans people, and many trans suicides are caused by transphobia, both from other citizens and from government policy.

[-] DrDickHandler@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

There won't be a civil war. Americans won't do shit.

[-] West_of_West@piefed.social 38 points 11 months ago

Where's NRA? Is this not an erosion of what they are fighting for?

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Sure, Putin's slush fund is going to argue with Putin's puppet. HA

[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 34 points 11 months ago

Right. Because trans people have equal rights, just not quite as equal as others. Maybe like 3/5 equal. And you need that extra 2/5 to be covered under the Bill of Rights.

[-] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago

You can tell the GOP's role model is Hitler with all the plans they have.

You can't have a good fascist country without minority groups to oppress and blame everything on. Especially when republicans are responsible for most of the crimes the administration complains about.

[-] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 10 points 11 months ago

It's likely Hitler's role models were the white supremacists of America. The Heritage Foundation has roots that trace back much further than Hitler and Nazi Germany, and Hitler himself had material regarding the effectiveness of Jim Crow laws.

The Heritage Foundation also clearly has applied lessons learned from Nazi Germany - outright executions are going to get you lots of resistance, where as disease, policy driven famine, and political violence can kill a large number without ever becoming too unpopular. Interestingly, this may be the reason they push so hard for controlling all media and social media platforms.

[-] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago

The GOP really don’t want their fellow chasers to get popped in self-defense when the trans panic sets in.

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

meanwhile a shooting is likely happening right now by cis white male shooter #408

[-] hperrin@lemmy.ca 10 points 11 months ago

They absolutely love the second amendment, except when people they don’t like use it. (Same with all the other amendments, and the Constitution in general.)

Spoiler alert: they hate the Constitution.

[-] cannon_annon88@lemmy.today 3 points 11 months ago

Yeah, it gives us too much freedom and them not enough to do whatever the hell they want.

[-] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 8 points 11 months ago

As someone who thinks the Second Amendment SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED every Time it's used to MURDER CHILDREN I FULLY SUPPORT this Idea to Save The Children!

[-] Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Is that cognitive dissonance I smell?

[-] Formfiller@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

That’s what happens before they get disappeared

[-] School_Lunch@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Well if we are able to get out of this shitshow and get competent people in charge again maybe we can use whatever loophole they use for this to enact some actual gun regulations.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Sorry, you see Harris loved the genocide so much she had to be defeated, meaning that trump is dictator for life, at least until they do some paperwork so Peter Theil can be dictator for life. Also the genocide got much worse and there's no sign of it stopping which probably wasn't Harris' plan but we'll never know.

And anyway the whole thing's moot - by the time the midterms roll around in just about a year, we'll have some other GRU talking point seeded around the interwebs to divide the left.

[-] SalamenceFury@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Using actual bigotry to get what you want politically is bad regardless of how "good" your political objective is.

[-] SalamenceFury@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Yeah, no. This is how you get people to start buying guns in masse AND shooting at any cop that rings their door.

[-] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 4 points 11 months ago

Stop! I can only get so erect.

[-] BotsRuinedEverything@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

And then they came for me

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