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Donald Trump has been accused of “turning the military on American citizens” after a Pentagon official confirmed that planning is under way to send National Guard troops to Chicago.

Illinois attorney-general Kwame Raoul also told CBS News that the president’s actions are both “un-American” and “unwise strategically”.

Accusing the president of “turning our military on American citizens in his ongoing attempts to move our nation toward authoritarianism,” he added:

His actions are not just un-American. They are unwise strategically. Our cities are not made safer by deploying the nation’s service members for civilian law enforcement duties when they do not have the appropriate training.

To be clear: We have made no such request for the type of federal intervention we have seen in Los Angeles or Washington DC. There is no emergency in the state of Illinois.

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[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago

It's so weird to first-hand experience how some historical things aren't recognized until after the fact.

Trump is an American traitor. Plain as day. But it's not generally going to be accepted until much later. I mean the nation, in general, is staring a traitor directly in the face and just not seeing it.

This ignorant, uneducated nation is about to go through a very painful experience.

[-] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 day ago

Sometimes I question my sanity because the world is going on like everything's normal. I wonder am I just delusional for thinking this is a fascist takeover of America?

[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 9 points 22 hours ago

Nope.

Turns out most Americans are really, really ignorant.

And don't let anyone argue that there's no way that many people can be that ignorant, because history has some stark examples to the contrary.

[-] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 3 points 20 hours ago

I still see many posts getting upvoted with excuses for why they're not doing anything to save their own democracy/lives. And posts trying to prompt them to organize and resist get downvoted.

They're not even willing to try saving their country. They just don't have any fight in them. They've already lost the battle with fascism and it's only just started.

"Home of the brave".

Bullshit.

[-] apftwb@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people.

[-] AlexLost@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago

Chicago should call in their national guard to protect the state against the gestapo trying to invade them and install their fascist views. You are running out of time and tests America. Wake the fuck up!

[-] quick_snail@feddit.nl 4 points 16 hours ago

No, no. Send the Illinois National Guard to DC. To overthrow fascism.

[-] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 105 points 1 day ago

“Accused”

No man, this is just straight up what is happening. There’s no other way to phrase it and I’m tired of weasel words like this softening and enabling this and Trumps supporters.

Oh he’s accused, must be by the libruls!

That’s how his supporters will dismiss this.

[-] EvilEdgelord@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 day ago

The media will burn for this. They had literally one job.

[-] teamevil@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

It's hard to do that job when they're literally owned by the same people pushing this agenda.

[-] EvilEdgelord@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago

They made their choice by following orders.

[-] teamevil@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Or we make a new media with blackjack and hookers

[-] EvilEdgelord@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

This is the way

[-] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 37 points 1 day ago

"There's a reason we separate military and the police: one fights the enemy of the state, the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people."

Commander William Adama

[-] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago

“It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things."

-Jingo

GNU Sir Terry

"Accused" is funny when you can go outside and talk to the military in question deployed in front of your home.

[-] bear 10 points 1 day ago

My grandma lives in DC. I'm so disappointed that she has to witness America doing this at the end of her life.

[-] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

My grandmother (granted we live in Canada) is in denial and treats me like I'm joking when I talk about what's happening in America. She was pretty much gaslighting me when the Jan 6 attack happened

[-] chellewalker@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 day ago

"accused"? Which part of that is an opinion? It is objectively true that the man is Trump, it is objectively true that the military are the people being sent, and it's objectively true that there are Americans in Chicago.

[-] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 27 points 1 day ago

Any military personnel that acts on orders to engage with civilians should no longer be considered part of our American military and should therefore be treated as enemy combatants.

[-] AlecSadler 10 points 1 day ago
[-] dhork@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'm reluctantly starting to think that a civil war is inevitable. Does Illinois assert that there is no emergency to justify Federalization of the National Guard? They should act first, then, and force the issue.

The only genuine emergency is Federal overreach. Illinois should mobilize its National Guard and State Police first, with the express mission of keeping their citizens safe from outside military and paramilitary forces. Arrest anyone from out of state who claims the authority to act within the state illegally. And also arrest anyone from a Federal agency who conducts their business without appropriate identification. Pass new laws enabling this if they don't already exist. When the Federal Government tries to counter-mobilize, tell them to pound sand.

This will force all this to the Supreme Court sooner rather than later. And if this court rules that this President can send military force to uncompliant states on a whim, then the civil war is officially on, because I don't think Blue states will roll over and take that.

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 25 points 1 day ago

I'm reluctantly starting to think that a civil war is inevitable.

That's what they're driving towards, yes. History may say that it's already started by now.

[-] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 10 points 1 day ago

Historians will be arguing when the 2nd American Civil War started. For some, it was the end of Reconstruction. Others, the Business Plot. Yet closer to now, when the Heritage Foundation was created.

All I know, is that many pieces of shit were allowed to fester.

[-] NABDad@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

The failure of the attempt to remove Andrew Johnson after Lincoln's assassination.

Johnson believed in white supremacy, and he was lenient towards the southern ruling class to keep them in power so that they would suppress the freed slaves*. Leaving the southern elites in power ruined the only chance the U.S. had to overcome the taint of slavery and racism.

Think of the difference:

The traitors from the first civil war may have actually faced consequences for their attempt to destroy the nation in order to keep people enslaved.

A president actually being removed via impeachment would have made the presidency less secure which may have either discouraged some of the behavior presidents have engaged in, or it may have been more likely to have resulted in them being held accountable (of course, I'm thinking of Nixon, Clinton, and Trump).

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago

It already started. There are masked men in the streets with guns abducting citizens. They are tampering with infrastructure. They are stealing funds. What more do they have to do before you consider it a war?

[-] NABDad@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

I think war would require an armed and active opposition. Without that, it's not civil war. It's just oppression.

[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 9 points 1 day ago

they basically said they are looking into options to be prepared and the governor and mayor are giving statements in two and a half hours.

[-] bear 16 points 1 day ago

I think blue states will roll over and take it. I can't see an armed standoff happening on the highways or wherever the mobilized NG column arrives.

Trump and the fascist front wants to escalate against any resistance. Blue mayors and governors don't want to be made an example of, so they will slowly get boiled.

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 16 points 1 day ago

I don't think Illinois will roll over. Pritzker and the General Assembly have been on point. I'm very interested to see what the response is if Little t tries to send other states' National Guard troops into Chicago. I feel pretty confident that Pritzker will not allow IL Nat Guard to be federalized for this purpose. Newsom didn't authorize and yelled about it, but also didn't really move to stop it in the moment.

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

Newsom didn't authorize and yelled about it, but also didn't really move to stop it in the moment.

To be fair, I don't think Newsom and his administration thought they would go there, this quickly. Pritzker has the benefit of seeing how things went in LA, it's no longer a hypothetical.

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 9 points 1 day ago

Yes, that's definitely true. Other states now have California and DC as relevant examples, and can use that information to respond more firmly.

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The thing is, I don't see an armed standoff happening either, because I think that when push comes to shove, if any Federal or out-of-state troops are ordered into a neighboring state where they are not wanted, and facing the proposed to shooting other guardsmen, the troops themselves will stand down.....

On the other hand, if I am wrong, at least we'll know about it sooner. And maybe the frog will jump out of the pot if the heat is suddenly cranked up too high.

[-] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago

I fear they'll just lie down and take it

[-] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 39 points 1 day ago

Create chaos to justify a martial law. And then going all in with death and destruction to stomp any revolt. That's dictatorship 101

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 12 points 1 day ago

My money is on starting a war with Venezuela being the spark that starts the revolt which enables him to crush everyone with the military :/

[-] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 9 points 1 day ago

Yeah Canada was too obvious and failed miserably. Venezuela is a perfect target, "communist", full of oil. It's mad how clear their plan is, and everyone just follows along, instead of calling them out.

[-] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 day ago

Guess it is time for the national guard to do their job and arrest the felon child rapist. Right?

[-] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago

The list of things Trump should be arrested for is longer than the constitution

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

While oligarchs hole up in a "no blacks allowed" village named after the people the land was stolen from. They also don't want to pay for shit. Can't make this up.

https://www.axios.com/local/miami/2025/06/24/island-of-billionaires-lobbied-sewage-surfside

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Creek%2C_Florida

  • Arthur I. Appleton, president of Appleton Electric Company and founder of the Appleton Museum of Art and Bridlewood Farm
  • Tom Brady, former NFL quarterback
  • Jeff Bezos, Amazon founder[1]
  • Norman Braman, former Philadelphia Eagles owner and billionaire art collector[25]
  • Carl Icahn, billionaire investor[25]
  • Julio Iglesias, Spanish singer
  • Jared Kushner, son-in-law of Donald Trump[26]
  • Edward Lampert, hedge fund billionaire and Sears CEO
  • Adriana Lima, model[25]
  • Martha O'Driscoll, actress
  • Don Shula, longtime Miami Dolphins head coach[27]
  • George Smathers, U.S. senator
  • Ivanka Trump, daughter of Donald Trump[26]
  • David and Victoria Beckham
  • David Guetta
[-] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

Accused? He's fucking doing it!

[-] Vertelleus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago

We are only one neglected discharge away from disaster.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

We were far more prepared to use physical action again state violence in 2020. What happened?

[-] ZC3rr0r@lemmy.ca 4 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Hyper normalisation has left everyone feeling defeated or indifferent. The strategy of "every day is nore insane than the previous" has fucking worked.

[-] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

It's not an accusation. It's a fact.

[-] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

What about Shelby County, TN and Texass

Look at this list and we'll see it just to boost the profile of the red stated and make the blue states look bad.

https://getsafeandsound.com/blog/which-state-has-the-most-murders/

[-] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

When can we mark our calendars for the hostile invasion of Chicago?

[-] flandish@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Capitalism in decline will always let its fascist roots show. It always has.

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