He didn't disclose his credit card number despite not being asked for it, that's sexual assault.
As much as I think disclosure is important, they didn't have sex. This is literally just trans panic. I cannot believe she got charged with anything.
He knew. There's no way he didn't know, given that she wasn't on hrt and hadn't had any surgeries done at the time; even though she may have been misleading. He only sued because of regret after the fact. The arguments presented by her defense are the most likely scenario. What cis men complained cis women would do to them back when metoo happened, they're doing now to trans women the first chance they've had. I hope this is a wake up call for UK trans folk to stop sexual encounters with cis folk, especially cis men.
if anything, this case proves to me why we should never disclose. it's not gonna keep you safe in court, if you survive the murder attempt
the guy literally consented to it too
So lying to someone about yourself to get them to engage in sex acts with you... is sexual assault?
That means we're going to go after ever shady guy who claims to be rich, famous or well-connected to get laid, right? Right?
we should sink the uk into the sea tbh
Counter sue for sexual assault because Ciara wouldn't have slept with the asshole if she had known that he is a raging transphobic piece of shit.
The BBC article about this is one of the more transphobic things I've read from a major publication recently.
From the quotes, the CNN article doesn't seem any less transphobic.
After the BBC one I just, couldn't bear reading another.
Completely valid.
"Trans woman charged with biological warfare for breathing near cis male without disclosing her filthy, disgusting tranny status."
Can that whole island kill itself please? Do us all a favor?
Even the trans people who live there?
Obviously not. Don't be dense, I'm venting.
Don't call us dense. We genuinely couldn't tell.
Pardon' if You find me rude, I'm noob, trying to learn stuff. Aside to things happen in UK, that have lot trans-oriented problems recently, thing could happen anywhere...
But as possible transgender myself (I'd call myself late-egg), I would find myself in 3 situations at meeting new persons:
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We are not into any romance/sexual stuff, just friends, any gender stuff is not related, we don't talk it at all, whatever. Still wouldn't want to befriend bi*ots, but that's another topic.
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We found each other on sex-finder app, we both knew we want to go into bed together and have fun. In this case now, if I keep hiding my trans-gender secret, wouldn't that be non-con to my partners? should I respect them as other humans? As much as I have rights to live my life in my way, they have same, with both side respect?
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Similar in romantic relations from a date-app or some other pick-up line in a cafe', if I'm about to build some relations, based on trust, how any of us could build trust with hiding such info?
Both 2 or 3 are questions related to hiding if asked moments, aside to other person respecting me being "uncommon" or not. Other one could even very politely and friendly refuse going deeper in relation knowing my secret, and imHo that would be ok too.
Personally, I would feel bad if I had to cheat that on partner, either sex or life partner.
How do You deal with that?
You deal with it by asking what the harm truly is and why the onus is only on trans people to placate cis people
- Transgender people deserve to be able to have sex/do sex acts with consenting adults without having to wear a gigantic "I'm trans" sign that can subject them to harassment or assault. It's not some secret meant to nefariously get in cis folks pants. This also applies to dating and I have words about that, so I'll stop there.
- If genitals matter that much, politely decline or ask what genitals the person has. Just because someone is trans doesn't suddenly change that they are the gender they say they are.
- As an aside, I feel like that cis man is just so weirded out by dick that he's a breath away from chopping his own off when he sees it in the mirror.
- If the genitals aren't shown and aren't used, why does it fucking matter? This is part of the same reasons bigots use to try and force trans people out of gendered spaces.
- If someone failed to disclose some other feature of themselves that this cis male disliked, is that ok?
- What if a cis woman had breast implants and didn't disclose that?
- What if a cis man had a vasectomy and didn't disclose it?
- What if a cis person wore a wig or makeup to appear more attractive? That sure seems deceptive.
- Would cis folks get charged with a sex crime for any physical features they have that go undisclosed, even if they went unused or were irrelevant to the act?
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