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[-] merdaverse@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

I don't know if there's data out there (yet) to support this, but I'm pretty sure constantly using AI rather than doing things yourself degrades your skills in the long run. It's like if you're not constantly using a language or practicing a skill, you get worse at it. The marginal effort that it might save you now will probably have a worse net effect in the long run.

It might just be like that social media fad from 10 years ago where everyone was doing it, and then research started popping up that it's actually really fucking terrible for your health.

[-] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 10 points 8 hours ago

I'll take my downvotes and say I'm pro-AI

we need some other opinions on lemmy

[-] SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Well, you can support anything, for example even the Nazis who shot Jewish children.

The only thing that awaits you is the consequences, the rest is not important, it is your choice.

[-] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

You know it’s ok for everyone to dislike a thing if the thing is legitimately terrible, right? Like dissent for dissent’s sake is not objectively desirable.

[-] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 1 points 4 hours ago

It is not though

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

Also pro-child-slavery. Women should be locked in boxes all day. Billionaires get to pee in everyone's food at the table.

These are the counterpoints that make a robust debate!

[-] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 3 points 8 hours ago

don't want to start a debate. Nobody will change opinion, I would rather not waste time on this

[-] GorGor@startrek.website 4 points 6 hours ago

You want other opinions on Lemmy but don't want to start a debate? That is a truly stupid position.

If you want to explore the nuances of pro/anti ai, go for it. I'm here with you. The person above made a point that the genie is out of the bottle. Maybe we could discuss focusing on making ai ethical rather that trying to catch smoke with our hands. Let's talk about that. But bringing up a vague concept because you want diverse opinions but refusing to engage? That is seriously dumb.

[-] ultranaut@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

I'm not really pro or anti. I use it with appropriate skepticism for certain types of things. I can see how it is extremely problematic in various ways. I would prefer it didn't exist but it does provide utility and it's not going away. I find a lot of the anti crowd to often be kind of silly and childish in a similar way as the extremists in the pro crowd, you can tell they really want to believe what they believe and critical thinking doesn't seem to come into it much.

[-] Aaron_Davis@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

I gotta be honest, I'm neither pro nor anti AI myself. I don't use it as much as I used to these days, but when I do use it, it can be pretty fun and helpful. And I can't help but admire the AI images and videos, even if it is AI slop. (Maybe I'm an idiot for being very easily impressed/entertained by almost anything.)

Yes I know there's a bunch of problems with it (including environmental), but at the same time, I don't feel like I'm contributing to those problems, since I'm just one person, and there's so many other people using it anyway.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

There was a very common consensus that television wasn’t bad because it hasn’t affected me. Or advertising isn’t bad because “people can make up their own minds”. So we let it go.

That letting it go allowed Fox News and Talk radio and online nazis to destroy American democracy in six months. Yes it took a few decades to get up to speed, but here we are now.

That’s what the AI discussion is like to me.

[-] SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

In a world without justice, democracy is just a temporary distraction, creating the illusion that we have rights when in fact we only have them as long as it benefits some bad guys.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago
[-] SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Well, it's like a law of nature: if you don't fight for what's yours, others will take it from you.

[-] SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Well, yes, many people use it, you are right, and how can I say it... You can enjoy anything, even build houses from your hair, but when it is done for you, it is somehow boring, or something inside says: "yes, it is beautiful, but what is the point?" How can you value something that has no human effort or soul?

It's like you enjoy the slop like some guy eating pizza and drinking beer while watching a football match. It can be compared to fast food and tasty but unhealthy food.

[-] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 8 points 8 hours ago

It's depressing. Wasteful slop made from stolen labor. And if we ever do achieve AGI it will be enslaved to make more slop. Or to act as a tool of oppression.

[-] SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Oh yes, soon we will live in techno-feudalism where we will return to our roots, so to speak. :3

And yes, you are damn right.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

No, no, no. You see, you're just too "out of the loop" to appreciate that it's a part of our lives now and you should just be quiet and use it. Apparently.

At least that's a few people's takes on here. So weird.

[-] SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

At least that’s a few people’s takes on here. So weird.

It's just like enduring someone spitting in your face and keeping quiet because that's the norm now.

[-] Alloi@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago

i remember this same conversation once the internet became a thing.

[-] StarryPhoenix97@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Bullshit. You're using AI for dnd wrong if you think that. I NEVER use the AIs suggestions but those suggests help me brainstorm and create something better.

[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 14 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

We have a lot of suboptimal aspects of our society like animal farming , war, religion etc. and yet this is what breaks this person's brain? It's a bit weird.

I'm genuinely sympathetic to this feeling but AI fears are so overblown and seems to be purely American internet hysteria. We'll absolutely manage this technology especially now that it appears that LLMs are fundamentally limited and will never achieve any form of AGI and even agentic workflow is years away from now.

Some people are really overreacting and everyone's just enabling them.

[-] 5gruel@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago

Lemmy is a lost cause for nuanced takes on "AI". It's all just rage now.

[-] prole 6 points 11 hours ago

I think framing them as "fears" is dishonest.

[-] javiwhite@feddit.uk 5 points 13 hours ago

"yet this is what breaks this person's brain?".

"AI fears are so overblown".

"some people are really overreacting".

Sure this little subset of the internet is aware that LLMs arent going to cut the mustard. But the general population isn't, and that's the problem. Companies are forcing LLMs on staff and customers alike. Someone suggesting that this is being managed appropriately and sustainably is either ill-informed, or intentionally misleading people.

[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago

Meh all of it is very unconvincing. The energy use is quite tiny relative to everything else and in general I dont think energy a problem we should be solving with usage reduction. We can have more than enough green energy if we want to.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

The energy use is quite tiny

It literally is not. If you're talking about interacting with trained models, then sure but that's a different thing altogether. That's not what the energy use problem is.

Meh all of it is very unconvincing.

Maybe you haven't taken the time to read the articles. Or perhaps climate, ethics, and economic disaster don't mean very much to you. Which - maybe that's the case, but you also can't say they're not huge problems. You can say "i don't care" but that's different than "these facts aren't real."

[-] prole 5 points 11 hours ago

Whatever you have to tell yourself

[-] javiwhite@feddit.uk 3 points 11 hours ago

facts tend to be unconvincing when you consider fantasies like "LLMs are being powered by green energy" a reality.

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