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[-] kittenzrulz123 19 points 3 days ago

Boo hoo, somebody has a wake up call. Because this isnt antisemitic this is targeted. It is a simple fact that the vast majority of Jewish people support the Occupation, a smaller (but still majority) percentage of people either implicitly or explicitly supports the genocide.

I know this because im acturally Jewish, ive acturally seen the occupation with my own eyes, ive spoken to more Zionists than I could possibly count, and I know that there are few fellow Jews like me.

[-] Nimbly@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

It is a simple fact that the vast majority of Jewish people support the Occupation

Even if this were true, it would still be wrong to target a random Jewish person for your message about Israel. Members of a class should not be treated differently because of that class, even if the concerns of the wider class are valid. That is literally prejudice. Pre-judicial thinking, you are judging them early.

[-] theolodis@feddit.org 5 points 2 days ago

Well, if they wouldn't be zios, they'd hardly be offended though.

[-] Nimbly@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

they’d hardly be offended though.

I'd be pretty offended to be assumed to be a zionist, who wouldn't?

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

Did you do the trip to Israel thing? I had a friend in college, cool kid he was Jewish and then one summer he did that free trip to Israel thing. I don't know what kind of brain washing they do, but he comes back randomly going off about Palestinians (this was decades ago) it was like all he can talk about and if you even defended their right to exist he would go into a huge tirade.

[-] kittenzrulz123 4 points 1 day ago

Oh yeah thats a common thing, its calling "coming to Israel, returning from Palestine". Its when you see the horrors of the occupation and immediately become radicalized. I too have taken part in this and have seen many horrors, I have seen the destruction in Gaza and I have seen the military occupation in the west bank. Through my person experiences I have come to one conclusion

THE ZIONIST OCCUPATION HAS NO INHERENT RIGHT TO EXIST

[-] ruuster13@lemmy.zip 23 points 3 days ago

Tony is glorifying the label "antisemite." Nobody is winning here.

[-] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 days ago

You know who else is "glorifying" antisemite? Israel.

[-] ruuster13@lemmy.zip 20 points 3 days ago

Deflection. You can't use their wrongs to justify yours.

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[-] FuyuhikoDate@feddit.org 158 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Beging anti Israel is not the same as antijew...

One thing is Antisemite, the other is pro himan rights.

Edit: since my comment sended mixed messages... I am totally against the Person who did it... Just because they ordered kosher meal, does not mean, that the Person is pro israeal / against palestina. And yeah i think Too we need To free palestina from hamas and genocidal people.

But the thing with the food was a dick move.

Edit2: fixed typos from my dann Smartphone, since i didnt set up the english words on my keyboard

[-] fartographer@lemmy.world 182 points 4 days ago

Hi, Jew here. Allow me to demonstrate your stance.

Fuck Israel's genocidal campaign and everyone who supports it.

FIN

[-] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 3 days ago

I may not know that many Jewish people but all of my hebros and hebroettes oppose genocide.

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[-] FuyuhikoDate@feddit.org 28 points 4 days ago

❤️

More people need To think that way!

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[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 59 points 4 days ago

Yeah this is such a simple thing to argue against. The only jewish person that would be offended by a piece of paper with "free palestine" written on it is one that supports the Israeli genocide.

[-] jaybone@lemmy.zip 27 points 4 days ago

Maybe it would be offensive if you are Jewish and you support Palestine? You might see it as an accusation against you? I dunno.

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 4 days ago

Not the best comparison, but if somebody sticks a "FCK NZS" sticker on my door at work, im not gonna think that they see me as a nazi.

[-] jaybone@lemmy.zip 32 points 4 days ago

But maybe if you were the only German in the office you might be offended by the implication?

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[-] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 14 points 3 days ago

What if they do actually see you as a Nazi though? Because I would wager that whoever wrote that message was expecting that the message would be read by a Zionist.

Don't get me wrong, I get what you're saying about not taking a sentiment personally if you know that you're not the intended audience. For example, I have many trans friends, who sometimes make jokes where cis people are part of the punchline. Although I'm cis, I don't take it personally because I know that being witness to the joke at all means that I am not the kind of person who is being joked about — indeed, it makes me feel privileged to be trusted enough to be within the "safe" bubble for my trans friends.

However, in this case, if I think about how I would feel if I were an anti-zionist Jew who received this meal, I'd feel pretty shitty because it would remind me of how gross it feels that Israel equating Judaism and the Israeli state makes Jewish people everywhere less safe; a fucked up side effects of Israel's atrocities is that even loudly anti-zionist Jewish people are at risk of increased antisemitism (genuine antisemitism, not just attacking the state of Israel and/or Zionist stances). It would feel shitty because no matter how loudly you scream "they do not speak for us" (an act that will get you condemned as being anti-Semitic, even if you're Jewish), Israel is not facing the kind of opposition that's necessary.

Part of how we resist Israel is by not letting them define themselves as synonymous with Judaism. I respect the intention of the person who wrote the message on the meal, but I believe the act itself to be misguided due to ultimately reinforcing Israel's preferred world view. It's important to remember that genuine antisemitism (i.e. stuff aimed at Jewish people rather than at Israel) is useful to Israel, because it helps them to manufacture consent for the ongoing genocide, and generally fuels the Zionist project

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[-] kerrigan778 41 points 3 days ago

For those confused, the concern of most of us is not that free palestine is an antisemitic statement, it is unequivocally not. The antisemitic part is thinking that because someone is jewish (ordering a kosher meal) that they need to be harassed and told "free palestine" let alone made to question the safety of their food.

[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago

The details are lacking, if this is on everyones meals, then that's ok in my books, if it only targets Jewish people then there is a problems

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[-] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 23 points 3 days ago

This is indeed yet another holocaust! Messages promoting human rights, especially the right to survival, may have once been "dirty jew" arguments, during German Nazi regime. Thank goodness that challenges to ethnic supremacy can be freely compared to a holocaust, today. Much progress.

[-] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 79 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Yeah, the genocide of Palestinians IS another holocaust!

[-] Iceblade02@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago

Actually terrifying. Wouldn't eat the meal. This is exactly the kind of reason that most European jews hide their identities.

[-] elevenbones@sh.itjust.works 27 points 3 days ago

Because they support genocide? 🤔

[-] Iceblade02@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago

Because people target them based on their religion/ethnicity.

See my response here

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[-] DrWorm@piefed.social 33 points 4 days ago

It says “Free Palestin”. Totally different place

It's a typo. It's supposed to say "plasticine".

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