Well, I for one installed Linux on my old surface book 2 yesterday, and my steam library works great on Linux. Even got better FPS.
So I became a Linux gamer yesterday and am super happy
switched to arch 7 or so months ago because of the recall spyware breaking the camels back. havent looked back since, i shouldve switched sooner i actually like using my computer now!
Roughly the same for me. I couldn't use Windows 11 on my old one and certainly wasn't going to put it in my new one. Gaming has been a breeze too, much easier than I was led to believe.
At this point it is just easier to play 90% of my Steam library on Linux. Maybe it's different for NVIDIA cards, but with AMD Microsoft is constantly trying to automatically installing old drivers and breaking things. No amount of registry edits seems to stop it. Hell, I had to open the command line just to install Windows with a local account only. Meanwhile, Linux is just click and play now.
@DelnitaCrane @mesamunefire The ONLY issues I've ever had with gaming on Linux was with x11 WM's and that's ONLY because my stupid Rog Strix is dual AMD/Nvidia and it doesn't play nice with x11. Are there fixes for my issue? no. why? because I'm an idiot that decided to buy a laptop with dual AMD/Nvidia.
On Wayland it works fine.
Where?! I filled the hardware survey and as they asked what OS I was on was hoping to see a stat about OSes, but no.
Spoiler: we are talking about 0.32% rise in Linux gamers.
Fuck windows, and copilot, and recall, and most especially OneDrive, and start menu ads, and unnecessary upgrades and ... And ... I gotta say I'm so much happier on Ubuntu, took me a little googling on some stuff and proton is still finicky sometimes, but man o man is it nice to have an OS which does what I tell it to.
I think it's important to point out that the percentages are not necessarily that meaningful. If more people are using steam deck and ditch their windows PCs for it, it's not an OS choice. It's a choice to move to consoles. Additionally, steam deck also competes with traditional console brands (PS, Xbox, switch) and might take some market share there as well, so that even if no one ditched their windows PCs, the total number of users using goes up and hence, the percentage.
I haven't had a steam deck in my hands, but I guess that it doesn't need the user to understand the underlying system at all. It can be used by the same unskilled people who use android or iPhone. So, one core requirement I think people need to have to install any other os is not met or even trained, which is actual knowledge about computers.
The reports about "increase in market share of Linux user's" is from my point of view, which is "I think it would be great if people would ditch windows and office" just a market bit. Useful but ultimately little meaningful.
Mhm, fair point. Although... I would say the steam deck's popularity and proof of viability as a gaming device is doing an immense amount of work on its own. I built a gaming PC ~2 years ago, and even as a long time developer and someone comfortable with a UNIX terminal I opted to get a copy of Windows for gaming, and had to awkwardly get to grips with it and find tools to get it playing the way I wanted.
It's only ~1 month ago that the prevalence and maturity of the steam deck (combined with Windows recall re-emerging🤮) finally had me at ease enough to give Bazzite a shot, and since jumping myself and expressing how happy I am with it, 2 of my long term "on the fence" friends have asked me questions and are starting to try Linux themselves.
Larger Linux market share, regardless of how it gets there, gives broad confidence in Linux, and also pushes developers and Steam itself to maintain Linux support and tools like Proton, which reinforces the cycle, even if it doesn't help us "kill Windows" for as long as users don't understand how to install it.
Perhaps the steam deck is a gateway drug for desktop linux?
The gaming industry will never recover when valve gets picked clean by the capitalist vultures that continously circle it.
The PS3 also ran on Linux and allowed users to boot into full desktop Linux. Didn't exactly lead to the Year of the Desktop Linux, did it?
Not every Linux user needs to ve comfy with terminal
If more people are using steam deck and ditch their windows PCs for it, it's not an OS choice. It's a choice to move to consoles.
They might have as well moved to Windows handheld or Nintendo Switch. They specifically chose the only Linux handheld on the market.
[Steam Deck] can be used by the same unskilled people who use android or iPhone. So, one core requirement I think people need to have to install any other os is not met or even trained, which is actual knowledge about computers.
Why is this a core requirement with Linux only? There are millions and millions of Windows users who have never installed an OS. Sounds gatekeeping to me.
They might have as well moved to Windows handheld or Nintendo Switch. They specifically chose the only Linux handheld on the market.
No, they chose a Steam console. A device with the same high convenience and low bar of entry as any other console, but with their (almost) whole Steam library on it.
Why is this a core requirement with Linux only? There are millions and millions of Windows users who have never installed an OS. Sounds gatekeeping to me.
Because conciously choosing and installing Linux is currently the requirement to run Linux on your PC.
If I go to the local electronics store I can pick up a Windows, MacOS or ChromeOS device that has everything pre-installed: OS, drivers, dependencies, all setup for instant usage.
And if I don't even know what an OS is, I'll get a Windows PC recommended by the sales people at said electronics store.
That kind of user experience is usually not available for prospective Linux users.
Unless they buy a Steam Deck, which is pretty much the only native Linux PC that's popular enough that a non-tech person would know it.
(Technically stuff like Tuxedo and Framework exist, but they are pretty unknown.)
Because most pcs bought don't have Linux preinstalled and usually only have the option of windows?
Glad to have made the jump! not even dual booting
Windows still is way farther ahead
Not really. Proton has done wonders for Linux gaming. The only games that really don't run have drm configured to block Linux specifically.
Windows has a 95% market share on Steam
100% of Steam Decks are not shipped with Windows.
That is a true statement
I think OP is referring to the percentage, not functionality. Windows, especially the office suites / GUIs are micht more refined. Someone somewhere pointed out at some point in time that backend development is often open source because developers are dedicated to the cause and the function. Designers, on the other hand, not so much (maybe they need payment because their main job pays less... I don't know.
In the end, the user uses the front-end, not the backend. And unless money flows into front-end development, for example, by a growing market of companies who want to switch away from office 365 for functional and financial reasons, we won't see front-ends which are attractive enough for people to switch to Linux for daily/ work related tasks.
I was referring to the percentage like you said
The Windows UI used to be solid back in the day but now days it is incredibly chaotic. Between the dark patterns and weird design choices it has become very cumbersome to navigate.
Doesn't really help that the AAA scene has gone straight in the shitter, while the quality games are all coming out of the Indie scene.
What Valve is doing is making it easier for indie Devs to better support Linux. They don't have the funds for separate Linux builds. But with proton, it's a pleasure to make it work. So... It's great that quality games are coming out of Indie studios and they can be played on linux. Fuck the AAA
Are we going to make a big deal out of every 0.3% shift in steams stats towards Linux?
Wake me up when we're dealing in whole percentages.... That's when I'll be excited about it, until then this could just be a sampling bias. A rounding error.
Steam OS handhelds are pretty much the entirety of the growth.
The market share of Steam Decks has been declining among Steam Linux users for at least over a year. Steam Deck users were 42% of Steam Linux users in April '24, and this year's July it's only 28%.
If the survey hit for me 1 week from now I'd be on Linux, I'm literally setting my system up properly next Saturday
You can dual boot Linux to try it out.
That comes with its own risks because Windows has been known to destroy dual boot setups when doing updates. Not always, but it can happen and it's burnt people.
Dual booting also makes it harder when you decide to get rid of windows fully, because you might yourself accidentally screw your bootloader as part of removing windows.
The option I would personally recommend if you are unsure is to disconnect your windows hard drive, keep it safe, and install Linux on a separate drive. Then you can always drive swap back if you need and you know everything is safe.
You can even put the windows drive back in after installing Linux, and then just use your BIOS boot drive selector to switch where you are booting from. Each drive has it's own boot record in that case, so there's less risk of any accidents.
Fuck microsoft. Fuck the Idea that everything needs to make a profit. Essential stuff should be publicly owned.
People don't have a choice. Microsoft made W11 incompatible with a lot of hardware and Microsoft said, "lol, buy new hardware"
Giving nary a single fuck about whats best for their users.
I'm currently configuring my new linux dev/gaming machine. Thanks for giving me the push I needed, Microsoft!
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