I don’t know why people expect massive jumps every single year. There’s only so much you can really change year over year at this point.
You don’t need to upgrade every damn year. Apple supports each phone for a minimum of 5-6 years.
Yeah, I'm sure if you just upgrade every 3-4 years there's plenty that's been added that makes it worthwhile.
Most definitely. Phones are no longer really throw away devices. They’re full fledged little supercomputers in your pocket and they’re expensive as fuck.
Nobody upgrades their laptop or PC every year. Hell, the most important components like CPU, GPU, and RAM don’t even get new releases every year.
Phones are damn near as powerful today. Nobody but someone that is already pushing the most powerful flagships to the limit can or will take advantage of the incremental updates.
So stop releasing “new” phones every year.
This year's new phones are for people that last bought a phone in 2020 or earlier. If the average user is on a three year upgrade cycle (what the data shows as I recall) then you'd expect roughly 1/3 of people to upgrade every year.
This is better for Apple, as it keeps their revenue more spread out instead of heavily concentrated in year one of a three year cycle.
This is better for consumers, as it means new features and upgrades are constantly being made. If they want to upgrade early they can, and they'll get new features even if it's only been two years.
This is also better for both Apple and consumers because there's more opportunities to course-correct or respond to feedback over issues. If Apple only released a phone every other or every three years, it'd take that much longer for the switch to USB-C.
Just because a new product is launched does not mean you need to buy it. Nvidia released a new GPU last year, but I didn't buy it even though it's newer than what I currently have. Arguing that new phones shouldn't come out each year is like arguing that new cars shouldn't come out each year. It makes no sense.
I fall squarely into that 3-year cycle. My old iPhone 12 Pro, which is—as others would very plainly say—still pretty capable, is liable to go to my mother. My husband’s will go to one of the nieces or nephews.
For me, this “slap in the face” upgrade is shaping up to be a pretty substantial upgrade. And, I’m good with spending my money on that.
Im going from a 11 to a 15 pro. Good jump for me
I’m in the same boat. Will be replacing my 12 Pro, which will go to my wife, hers to my kid. We get about 10 years out of each phone, by using them like this. The improvements I get for upgrading only after three years are very significant!
Person with iPhone 11 can still upgrade. Not everyone buys phone on same cycle. So they have to release it. But you don’t have to buy it.
That doesn’t solve anything though. There are improvements every year, just not enough to upgrade every single year.
And there are always people that do keep their device for several years upgrading in any given year.
I honestly don’t understand. I’m on my 11 pro at 86% battery. Might just use it for many more years after a battery swap, why would I want to change every year? I love the sharper edges of the new ones, and now also the dynamic island and USB C, but I’m not going waste money when my current phone still can do anything as fast as the day I purchased it.
Then they shouldn't release every year and create a new batch of endless ewaste and demand in natural resources mined by exploited labor.
Your talking about where you place the blame: the drug dealer with no regard for human life as long as they are profitable, or the drug user who is weak, sick and often incapable of breaking their unhealthy habit.
What's funny is this is the biggest update in years. The action button and USB C by themselves are a much bigger difference than last year was. Base models also got dynamic island. Smaller bezels, rounded edges, new colors. I dk how much more could change visually besides those things anyway?
The pros also have 3nm, armv9, wifi 6e, thread connectivity, new cellular bands, ai 5g modem, ray tracing, more ram, Qi2, 10 gbps port, increased repairability, titanium. 5x zoom on the Pro Max.
I think the problem that people are picking up on is that the base model is turning into a budget version of the previous year's pro model. If you want newer tech you are forced to pay over $1,000 now. Before they had the same internals as the pros.
correct me if I'm wrong, but literally the first 3nm computing devices to land in consumer's greedy paws. 12-atom wide transistors. what a SLAP IN THE FACE
WHERE ARE MY 11-ATOM TRANSISTORS?? HOW CAN YOU SLAP?!!
"New iphone sucks", says fans while standing in line at the store the night before the launch.
Absolutely this, we made them this big. Well, some of you lot not me. Android 4 life!
So what the fuck do you all want? It's a phone. All the innovations that could be crammed into a candybar-style phone have pretty much been done.
If you want real innovation that means a return to the early 2000s when there were tons of different form factors in the market. Sliders, flips, phones with full keyboards, etc. But that means you either need The Only Phone Manufacturer to produce more than one product line of phones, or it means you need to consider other options.
There's a LITTLE innovation happening- Samsung and Google are both using the new flexible OLED panels to make flipbook-style phones that look pretty cool. Motorola has one too that's a flip phone style gadget, kinda square when closed but flips open to be a standard phone size. Sadly I don't see any real contenders with a physical keyboard.
I'm also not convinced the new flip phones are the new way forward and not just a gimmick. Like we got a few years of rapid flatscreen TV development, and after it started to stall manufacturers tried to push it the 3D route, but it never caught on.
I don't want or need innovation in my phone or TV.
Slow news day at Business Insider, I see.
I think that we've reached the peak of that form factor. Every real change will have to deviate so much that we wouldn’t call it smartphone any more.
We were there 10 years ago and that's being generous. Phones have been fucking boring for over a decade.
And that should be a good thing because by now you should be able to pick up a great smartphone for a hundred bucks... except that all these phone companies have to keep the money flowing in so they keep inventing shitty gimmicks and charging thousands of dollars for them.
Or they strip out features to make you use their shitty clouds and subscription services.
Or they keep bloating the OS so much that the hardware can't keep up - but God forbid you want to ignore their shitty update that brings 100 new emojis! They're gonna force that shit on you whether you like it or not.
Tech industry is a desert of wasted talent nowadays.
This is an overstatement. My first smartphone was an old Sony in 2014 and it was good.
My second phone was a crappy Samsung in 2017 and it was bad. Slow data rates. Horribly over saturated photos.
My third smartphone was a pixel 2 and it was remarkable. Better battery life than I was used to. The photos looked amazing.
Then the released the night mode feature and I realized I had never seen a good phone Pic taken in a bar, but I was, on last year's hardware taking decent photos in dive bars...
Then pixel eventually started supporting portrait mode. That was cool.
But really? Apps and websites have gotten so bloated with shit we don't realize how capable phone processors have become. If the data on websites now had been this way in 2013? Forget about it. People would have hated smartphone.
Progress on cameras has been pretty obvious. Batteries and screen size slightly less obvious. But I feel the counter acted gains on processor speeds have gone unnoticed. Phones have changed in the past ten years.
Indeed. The issue for these companies. If phones aren't enticing enough and people start hanging onto devices for an extra year that effecticely cuts their revenue in 1/4.
That's why icloud got more expensive, it's why google is trying to monetise your web history for ads. They're looking for further revenue.
On the Google point, Google has always been an ad company first, and then started making hardware. Advertising is like 90% of their revenue
How about they add a 3.5mm audio jack? That'd be a killer feature!
as an android user with 3.5mm jack since always in all of the phones I have had, I didn't use it once since like 2017
It's just a phone. Here's an idea: You don't have to rush out to pathologically buy the latest thing that Apple makes. You and Apple don't owe each other shit. If your old phone works, stick with it. And if the new iPhone doesn't do it for you, just fuckin' buy something else.
"I'll never leave Apple but the iPhone 11-15 are all the same exact phones," said one user in a post on X, formerly Twitter.
I'm getting serious
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Randos on Twitter left negative comments with little to no substantive feedback. Fire up the article!
I have a 14 Pro, and the changes in the 15 Pro are tempting to me.
I want USB-C, I want the lighter titanium, I want the rounded edges, I want the new camera effects, I want to try the new case options, etc.
Anyone coming from an older phone would find a LOT to look forward to in the iPhone 15 or 15 Pro.
It sounds like your life is pretty sweet in order to be underwhelmed by a magic $800-$1000 device.
People say this every year. The vast majority of true innovation is behind us. Why was an article written this year? Is it just because some reporter browsed X and thought, "eh, why not?". This is not news.
Why was an article written this year? Is it just because some reporter browsed X and thought, “eh, why not?”. This is not news.
you just broke the code to modern journalism
Phones are maturing. Are they upset when the new Toyota Camry is only modestly different than last years?
You know, it's funny. I've never in my life met a Toyota Camry fanboy who was willing to fight me to the death, or at least bitterly argue with me incessantly in the comments, over their allegedly superior choice to buy a Camry or my allegedly inferior choice not to. Damn strange.
I don't know if Lemmy is degrading already or if the Apple fan boys and girls have just migrated en masse, but this thread sucks.
Theyll still buy one.
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Lol what? Just dont buy it, Its that simple. Suckers born every minute!
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