It would be sweet if at least one military person would have some fucking balls and do some good in this timeline
These are inherently complex machines in harsh environments, accidents and malfunctions have occurred before.
Are you suggesting someone starts WW3 by shooting Putin down? Because that's what would happen. While I don't like the US or Russia, I don't think their citizens deserve to die as collateral damage from the nuclear blasts. These leaders and their government lackeys need to go, but the only safe way to have them offed (for the rest of the world) is through rebellious uprising by their own citizens.
He's suggesting that someone should do what's called a "pro gamer move"
In Minecraft
Say the n word?
Are you suggesting someone starts WW3 by shooting Putin down? Because that's what would happen.
Would it though? If you cut the head off the snake, will (can?) the body keep following its orders?
It'd definitely be chaos and there's a good chance there would be some war. But I'm not so sure how much of that would be retaliation against the US vs an in-fighting power grab within Russia.
I think you need to look at it more in depth. Would there be a power struggle? Yes, most assuredly, but not instantaneously. But if it were the other way around, and Russia lopped off Trump's head, do you really think Maga wouldn't retaliate and would instead fight over the presidency first? It'd be simultaneous, as those with their fingers on the bombs would use them to show they deserve the role of leader through force.
In your scenario Vance would be the successor and MAGA would use the war to further their agenda. Kinda straightforward.
I'm unfamiliar with Russia's succession rules but Putin has been consolidating power and murdering anyone with potential to be his successor for decades. I could see how that would destabilize Russia more than the US.
Plus the Russian war machine ia not doing great in Ukraine. Doubt they could threaten western Europe or the US in any meaningful capacity. Nukes are always an option
War isn't fought toe-to-toe anymore. It's done remotely. Yes the Russian military is garbage now. But if even 3% of their nukes successfully land, the casualties would be in the tens of millions, if not hundreds.
Russia may be inept, but the threat of their nukes is not to be underestimated. I severely doubt the Russians that follow Putin would say thank you and leave it at that. Power vacuums create worse conditions than the conditions under the tyrants. It would get much worse before it ever got better.
And why exactly would they nuke the US? Do you think whoever wins the power struggle in Russia has a death wish or really wants to rule over a pile of radioactive rubble? The calculus of MAD isn't going to change.
They may assassinate Trump in retaliation, but that just means everyone wins.
Because they can't fight a ground war. You think American would just happily accept Trump's assassination and move on? And Russia would happily accept Putin's? There'd be terrible war, and since America would overwhelm Russia, the Russians would use their only ace in the hole and nuke America as they know America will show no quarter and they'd rather take as many with them before they go. You, and just almost all commenters in this thread, seem to underestimate the retardedness of the saber-rattling idiots that step in to fight to fill the void of the delusional dead leaders.
I'm done trying to talk sense in this thread. If you and every other pussy in this thread is as tough as their comments are, I implore you to head to Alaska and take these asshole leaders out. Either way, the world will be better off as there's be fewer idiots left to dumb down our species.
es the Russian military is garbage now.
LOL that's why they're winning against NATO
there is still medvedev, who would pretty surely become russians president for sure if their faction can keep control.
Tacking onto to that. I’ve read that historically things get worse not better in a power vacuum after a supreme leader’s death. As Putin isn’t going to relinquish power prior to his demise and he has such total control over Russia, it’s going to get worse not better once he’s gone. I can’t imagine there’s a secret pro-democracy figure in the cabal that can wrest control of the military and state to transform Russia in the next era. It’s likely that the next leader is more antagonistic towards the west as they try to consolidate power and quell domestic unrest by asserting that “external forces” are oppressing Russia. Regime change is going to be destabilizing and dangerous.
I'm glad there's one person with sense in this thread. Who would've thought my least popular comment in the Fediverse would be calling for caution over starting WW3?
These idiots here can forfeit their own lives if they want, but don't forfeit my little girl's life because you're too lazy to open a psychology and a history book. You don't assassinate world leaders on foreign soil and get away with it, scot free.
I don't think anyone here is seriously in favor of killing him. Just jokes and crossed fingers.
How often do you down vote online comments as a joke? Well I got a whole bunch of em in this thread. I'm sure war is all jokes to the people here. Smh
I'm rather surprised by the disproportionate voting as well. I was just playing devils advocate tbh.
For the record, I've not voted either way on anything in this thread. I will say, you seem to be taking this far more seriously than perhaps you should. This isn't the war room; it's a throwaway convo with strangers about hypotheticals...
Do the Russian buttons even work? I've been convinced they don't since My of 2022.
Don’t get our hopes up
Sadly, in Russia, Putin is not the worst — whoever becomes leader after him (assuming Russia does not democratize) will most likely nuke all of us.
I more place odds on Trump nuking part of the US than Russia
I would like that
deservedly.
A fighter pilot could make a terrible mistake and collide with the wing of his plane, causing a structural failure of the wing and the plane to plummet to the ground, the only survivor of the tragedy being the fighter pilot, who managed to eject from his stricken aircraft before it crashed in a fireball in the wilderness below.
Just one possibility.
I'm suggesting someone gets two birds stoned at once
These Russians have been bluffing since the Cold War. There fucking cowards getting there asses kicked by people with pitch forks. The only power they have is ability to create propaganda and bots against foreign countries.
If that were true the rest of the world would have swooped in and caused a regime change. Look at Ukraine. Do you really think Russia is powerless? If so, please enlist as a mercenary for the Ukrainians if you're so sure Russia'll be disposed of with pitchforks.
We saw them getting there asses kicked by elderly people with tractors when this war started. And the entire world doesn’t care because if they did we wouldn’t have this going on and people of Palestine wouldn’t have to suffer from genocide.
Every military had it's losses. Is America powerless because it couldn't win the wars in the Middle East? Or on drugs? Or in Vietnam?
Remember when Putin supplanted the military uprising a couple years ago? I understand where you're coming from and want to see Russia, as it is, end. But calling for mutually assured destruction is such a poor choice when there are solutions that don't risk the start of WW3 to explore first.
Is America powerless because it couldn't win the wars in the Middle East? Or on drugs? Or in Vietnam?
Yes. The US military is completely incapable of success abroad. That has been clear for at least 50 years now.
someone starts WW3
No.
by shooting Putin down
That would be great.
Because that's what would happen
No.
I read it as refusing to carry out orders.
Kinda sounds like they’d be ending ww3 before it even started
just a few buttons to fire multiple stingers just to be sure that the target stays down
I suspect that this isn't the first time. Probably escorts were also used for the occasional visits during the Cold War.
Trump was using escorts around that same time on Epstein's island.
Will there be a one real hero who will do what should be done?
Two birds one stone…er…plane.
nuke the US? I hope so
Woooh! America is great again! All right, everybody! Let’s all take Friday off because everything is awesome now. /s
I assume this is a clickbait headline and this is just for diplomatic immunity?
Edit: I meant more generally the idea that heads of state are usually given extra safety/privacy considerations when on foreign soil, etc. etc.
diplomatic immunity is something else. it's that diplomats aren't bound to know all of the laws of the country they are residing in. for example, if i'm a diplomat for the US, and i make a right turn on red in Prince Edward Island while conducting official business, i may be pulled over, but not ticketed.
what's happening here is military protection escorts as is done for all heads of state visiting another country. especially in this case since they will be flying over international waters and Putin is a wanted war criminal
That's what I meant. More broadly the idea that heads and representatives of state get have their safety more protected.
"It is an interesting irony
it really isn't 🙄
It would be fun if you post a theonion article, because people wouldn't even know whith all the crazy stuff going on atm
Lol slaves
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