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[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 85 points 1 year ago

And if it wasn't Reagan, you have pretty good odds it was Nixon.

[-] genoxidedev1@kbin.social 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And if it wasn't Nixon just choose literally any other (former) Republican president.

* Former in parentheses for future reference

[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

Any post-Nixon one, anyway. The list before him is fairly non-objectionable. Lincoln. Grant. Roosevelt. Hoover. Eisenhower. I guess Taft through Coolidge were fairly forgettable, by today's standards.

[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't know about that. Woodrow Wilson was a major factor in the regression after reconstruction. It's important to remember that democrats before the 1930s were the conservative party.

While it wasn't popular at the time, Wilson's decision to enter WW1 was actually the best thing for American interests in particular and worldwide democratic reform in general.

People really don't understand exactly how fucked in the head Kaiser Wilhelm and his allies were. Absolute monarchies could very well still be the world wide norm without the decisive, undeniable loss of the Central Powers to the liberal nations.

Does that decision undo all the harm he did? Who knows?

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[-] toxicbubble@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

btwn the two of them (correct me if I'm wrong, just going from memory): raised housing costs, stopped social benefits, criminalized drugs, were against worker's rights & minimum wage, against universal healthcare, overall made life harder for everyone except the upper class

Casual reminder that Nixon set his federal minimum wage at something he considered unreasonably, insultingly low, and that was $12 per hour adjusted for inflation.

[-] guriinii@lemmy.world 72 points 1 year ago

Also Thatcher if you're from the UK

[-] Tagger@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Or, now Boris (Maybe Cameron)

[-] Skua@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

Thatcher : Reagan :: Boris : Trump

But Cameron should not escape blame

[-] Tagger@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I actually think the lasting impact of Cameron's Brexit will be more damaging than Boris's tenure.

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[-] FReddit@lemmy.world 64 points 1 year ago

My father was kind of a low level fixer in California politics.

He tended to vote Republican but regarded Reagan as a marginally literate moron.

After Reagantard reached the presidency in 1980, part of his obscene transfer of wealth to the rich brought on taxation of some of social security income.

One day I was talking to my father and kind out of nowhere he said, "Fuck Ronald Reagan."

I don't think anyone in the family voted RepubliKKKlan after that. For a lot of reasons. One of those reasons was his refusal to treat the rise of AIDS seriously.

[-] GreatGrapeApe@reddthat.com 26 points 1 year ago

I get that we are both if a certain age but can you please consider not using terms related to retardation when you mean stupid?

[-] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 5 points 1 year ago

I feel like Americans online throw this word around a lot more than anyone else. It's absolutely not an acceptable word to use here (UK) and I can't remember the last time I heard anyone use it.

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[-] greenskye@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

I miss those kind of conservatives. The ones with brains and principals.

[-] flossdaily@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

At least under Reagan, many of these policies had never been tested.

Republicans of today are several orders of magnitude worse. We've now witnessed the damage of trickle-down economics, of vilifying "pinko commies", of ignoring a global pandemic... And yet they do it anyway.

[-] uphillbothways@kbin.social 31 points 1 year ago

Only good thing Reagan did (just because I believe in credit where due) was to speed GPS availability for civilian use in response to Korean Air Lines Flight 007 being shot down by the Soviets after it went off course. Everything else he did was complete shit.

[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Kind of like Nixon starting the EPA, but also being a treasonous, corrupt, criminal piece of shit.

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[-] kromem@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

And the majority of the times you'd be wrong is because it was Nixon.

[-] cogman@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Agree, but I'll say that Clinton and Bush had their fair share of fucking up the US.

Clinton's Neo-liberal politics weakened public support in favor of privatization and bush accelerated that while helping to advance christian nationalism and eroding personal freedoms.

We've, no joke, not had a great president since Jimmy Carter and he was canned because of economic circumstances outside of his control.

[-] orrk@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

the goal of Neo-Liberalism is to privatize

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[-] StinkySnork@kbin.social 26 points 1 year ago

I'd take it a step further than Reagan, and point the finger directly at Jerry Falwell. A lot of his money paid Reagan.

[-] Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago

Wrong with society: Regan

Wrong with me: Mum and Dad

[-] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 1 year ago

If not Reagan, then probably Newt Gingrich

[-] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And a major case of fuckyouigotmineitis.

[-] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Trump was a big dumb animal.

Reagan knew how to fuck shit up. Competent malice.

[-] Subverb@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I'd argue that incompetent malice has been pretty effective at fucking shit up too.

[-] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Trump made the culture worse with his rhetoric, but was thankfully a legislative failure. He passed all of 1 piece of meaningful legislation, a hand out to the rich. His SCOTUS appointments were McConnell's achievement.

Reagan got his grotesque agenda passed, and succeeded in getting his "opposition" party to take the corporate bribe money, abandon unions in all but rhetoric, and go full neoliberal into today.

We haven't had an anti reaganomics, trickle down, rigged capitalist economic President from either party since. Now our 2 party's largely align on the economic issues that exacerbate the social issues and fight over those.

That is Reagans legacy, setting the table for the owner class to siphon every last crumb from the peasants in perpetuity, both in legislative framework, and cultural acceptance.

Because in "turning the bull loose," you just became a temporarily embarrassed millionaire, amirite?

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[-] mctoasterson@reddthat.com 16 points 1 year ago

To name another specific problem, "closing mental institutions and turning the afflicted out onto the streets" was a neat one-two punch perpetrated by both Kennedy and Reagan. Kennedy's last major thing before taking the plane to Dallas was to sign CMHA and step towards deinstitutionalization. Reagan further exacerbated the problem by closing some of the local facilities that supposedly replaced the system closed by Kennedy.

90% of the current homelessness crisis in major cities is attributable to these policies. The result was generations of mentally ill and addicts traipsing the streets instead of being corralled towards mental healthcare away from general populace.

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[-] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 15 points 1 year ago

Or Milton Friedman. And if not him, then the guy who put lead into gasoline.

[-] Illuminostro@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

So... when are we going to start building the guillotines?

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[-] tinfox@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

RIP fairness doctrine.

[-] reynman@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago
[-] jopepa@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

What is Hank’s law, no charcoal bbq-ing?

[-] Loid@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

Hank's law is when you die in the middle of nowhere by Nazis because you got pranked by your brother-in-law.

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[-] sebinspace@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I had a drive fail on my RAID5 this morning.

Thanks, Reagan.

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[-] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Reagan and Bush Jr. If it wasn't for Bush Jr. then we'd have started on climate change, and stem cells would be much farther along in research

[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Climate change inaction is actually pretty firmly in the laps of corporations. ExxonMobil knew climate change was being caused by human use of fossil fuels, but instead of continuing their research on biofuels during the oil crisis, they fired all the researchers and hid their scientific research.

[-] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Yes but their propaganda campaign worked a lot better when the VP was an oil executive and the President was spreading it for them.

Don't know why you got down voted though. You're right.

[-] CaptainHowdy@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago
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[-] genoxidedev1@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

On the other hand you'll be left way more often than you'll be right

[-] tomi000@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

No coz Im european.

[-] Ya_Boy_Skinny_Penis@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Noooooo . . . . it is definitely hate.

Average Republican voter will reject a policy that would unequivocally help them, if that policy also helped (or even could potentially help) some group they are supposed to hate.

Nebulous "strength" doesn't mean shit (sorry, you're speaking absolute nonsense). Hate is the only kicker.

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