The prospect of still being billionaires, but with less billions, was just too much to handle
Exactly why they need to be taxed more.
Billionaires shouldn't exist to begin with and don't assume tax money are used by governments for good.
Now imagine if there was some way a government could take a percentage of that and put it towards improving society as a whole.
Oh well, guess we're fucked.
Now imagine if there was some way a government could take a percentage of that and put it towards improving society as a whole.
Yes, some form of "giving pledge" where the amount was standardized and there was no option to back out. Radical thinking here.
Financial obesity is an existential threat to any society that tolerates it, and needs to cease being celebrated, rewarded, and positioned as an aspirational goal.
I really like that as a term, never come across it before.
tbh I'm surprised that there are 9 who did
as a reward we should leave them for last
Meh. I actually don't think its a good idea. You just draw power away from the best of a segment empowering the biggest assholes. Taxes should be progressive and include all sources of income not just wages and the tax brackets should go all the way up to the highest income level. So there should be a level for over 100 billion and another for over 10 billion and over 1 billion and so on. Five figure income should be zero.
Taxes should be progressive
Yeah ofc. Why do you think the billionaires came up with this BS plan instead?
The fact that there are 256 billionaires is an absolute failure of our society.
They broke their arms patting themselves on their backs and can’t write checks anymore. 😢
Wowza scoob. Imagine that. Rich people lying.
Just wow.
Sound like rich people ought to be dying
Ruh roh!
why did they only use an 8-bit number to count billionaires , surely there are more of em
/dumbface
You don't understand, they're making money so much faster than they can reasonably give away.
making money
I think you mean stealing money.
Not true.
They’re also using imaginary methods to make money grow out of other money.
This is kind of the actual problem though. It's hard to actually have effective charities. Even some of the most ethical, and well run charities, end up with surplus funds (Dolly Parton's charity for example). The government is setup to spend that much money helping people though. But paying taxes is somehow bad and wrong. I don't know if I had a real point other than maybe we should actually tax these rich folks so they can achieve their dream of giving away at least half their wealth.
There was a post a while ago where a German person posted that they were confused by the US nonprofit systems, they basically said I pay my taxes and the government makes sure it's spent feeding the needy and foreign aid and all that. Why should I go through the trouble of researching all these charities trying to find a good one to donate to.
Not that Germany doesn't have non profits, but they really should be for special interest type cases where you explicitly want to send money to a cause, not general global well being.
Who would have thought
I forget where I heard this story, but apparently Bill and Melinda were at a dinner party during the Obama Presidency. Bill said that he had "way more power than Obama" and Melinda kicked him under the table. TBF I think he was completely right: politicians in the US derive their power from their ability to raise money from rich donors, while rich donors derive their power directly from their money. And they continue to derive power from their money even when they deposit it into a "foundation" which doles it out tax-free to favored recipients.
In Gates' case, a lot of his "charity" involves donating patent-protected drugs to third world countries to forestall their saying "fuck your patents" and producing life-saving drugs for themselves. Preserving intellectual property rights is the primary goal here, with actually helping people secondary. Anyone who thinks these ruthless multi-billionaires suddenly become benign, caring people in their advanced years is a rube.
by followed up you mean: "Ok after I die, I will donate half of my money to my tax-exempt family-owned-and-operated charity, that just happened to only pay salaries and donations to causes that serve the interests of our family-owned-and-operated shell companies"... :D
it's like sequeezing your late's father dry-drenched cumsocket which he used his entire life, then drinking it, and brag about it... to which I say thanks but no fucking thanks.
giving half their wealth to what? charities that they control for pushing agendas (and possibly money laundering if we are talking about billionaires in third world countries with much less regulations)
These people are genuinely sick in the head, this level of pointless greed is not normal. Of course they aren't going through with it.
Is any of that because what would have been half their worth 15 years ago is now less than half of what it would be?
Like, if someone had 100 billion in 2010, and did give away 50 billion in that time, but also made a further 20 billion in that time, did they give away half their worth or not?
I've not read the article, so maybe that question is answered in there.
Every country would need to adopt a universal taxation of wealthy individual for increased taxes to work. What I am saying is if US has a 75% for those earning over certain amount. Then other countries have to do the same. If not then Billionaires will run/relocate to the cheapest taxes. Which would be easy since the country they move to will be happy to get Billionaires tax money.
Relocation is a bogus threat. Billionaires will not leave first world countries.
They will, on paper.
That's why more countries should adopt the usa's stance on external taxation. As much as people bitch about it, it's a great anti tax haven policy, even if we don't follow through on everything else necessary to do so
Can't say that I'm shocked.
Lmao fuck them my taxesare higher then half
Once you start to have money, you get a money dependency. No matter how rich you get, the "baseline you really need to live the life you want and nothing more" growths together with your wealth.
Take lottery winners and ask them if they could give away half of their gains. Will you be surprised if most of them say no, even though the day before they would have set their "minimum needed to live a happy life for the rest of my days" at a much smaller fraction of it?
Now take a similar population, but who in addition rationalized them deserving that money through their hard work and talent.
Pledge
Words are meaningless.
This article has slightly more dirt but still seems a bit vague on hard numbers and names.
Or their wealth has grown so rapidly that they gave away half of their 2010 wealth?
Pikachu Face
Wow the greediest scumbags on the planet lied about giving up their ill gotten power? I'm shocked! SHOCKED! \s
That’s 247 billionaires we could have put in the buffet. Never trust a billionaire. Eat them at first opportunity.
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