ICE agents pointed guns at a US citizen when she ran out on to her yard to ask why they were arresting her (legal immigrant) partner. : aboringdystopia

[-] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 218 points 4 months ago

I’m not understanding how somebody in a mask who isn’t presenting a badge can brandish a gun and shove somebody on their property without themselves being shot.

[-] shapesandstuff@feddit.org 146 points 4 months ago

yeah. still waiting on the 2A crowd to enforce their anti tyranny claims.

[-] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 81 points 4 months ago

Ice are the 2A crowd

[-] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago

And they see the entirety of the US as their property to enforce their 2A rights on

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 34 points 4 months ago

This is why the left needs to get armed. You disarmed yourself while the right wing continued to buy arms and now your "surprise Pikachu face" that the right is not stopping this...what logic are you trying to lay here?

[-] ansiz@lemmy.world 25 points 4 months ago

The last time the left got armed the police bombed the building in Philadelphia, in 1985. The police and ICE are way more violent now, so I'd wager it would happen again. With ICE's new budget I assume we'll see armored carriers and tanks rolling around sometime next year.

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 32 points 4 months ago

Not a reason to not arm yourself. You're just proving why you should be armed.

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[-] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 28 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I guess some people are not in the "I will die but I'm taking you with me" mindset all the time.

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[-] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 119 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Show up at their house and kidnap them and their families.

No warrant, no ID, no law required.

(Yeah, Pam, I said it. Fuck you and your goofy, Nazi, child stealing, kiddie fucking pals at ICE and the entire regime. Justice will find you one day.)

[-] zakobjoa@lemmy.world 72 points 4 months ago

Hey, Germany here. We currently don't use Nuremberg, so feel free.

[-] destructdisc@lemmy.world 68 points 4 months ago

The Israelis are in line for that one currently.

[-] prex@aussie.zone 23 points 4 months ago

JFC there is a queue. Now I'm (more) sad.

[-] thedruid@lemmy.world 97 points 4 months ago

I want this clear. I.C.E has no jurisdiction when it comes to citizens. One shows up at your house tell em to fuck off and call a lawyer.

DO NOT COMPLY

[-] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 57 points 4 months ago

When they force their way into your home, shoot them dead.

[-] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 43 points 4 months ago

Within 100 miles of the border or coast, your rights are way less.

You’re gonna end up detained no matter what you do if they want to detain you. And they’ve already disappeared plenty of people without due process.

[-] BakerBagel@midwest.social 25 points 4 months ago

The count airports as a border point, ao ICE says tou have no rights unless you live somewhere like 4 corners or bumfuck Wyoming.

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[-] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 86 points 4 months ago

He refused to identify himself and then assaulted the resident. Why is the news calling him an "agent?" These guys don't have badges, don't wear uniforms, drive in unmarked vans and wear masks. They don't know WTF they are.

Looks to me like a group of kidnappers.

[-] deathbird@mander.xyz 15 points 4 months ago

Good point. Could literally be vigilante militias. It at least merits an "alleged" or "purported" before "agent."

[-] oyo@lemmy.zip 73 points 4 months ago

If we allowed 50 million immigrants to enter the US the number of criminals per capita would be reduced.

If we deported Donald Trump the number of criminals per capita would also be reduced.

[+] ToadOfHypnosis@lemmy.world 55 points 4 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

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[-] habitualcynic@lemmy.world 24 points 4 months ago

I also think it’s pent up rage because a black man was president. These racists will literally never let that go or accept it.

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[-] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

There is no greater flake than a butt-hurt, racist conservative. That's why political correctness exists: to protect their feelings.

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[+] nimble 53 points 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

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[-] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 58 points 4 months ago

If you haven't figured it out yet, all of the big talk, 2A fans are the biggest pussies out there.

If any of them were legit, we'd have dead ICE agents by now.

[-] Zizzy 47 points 4 months ago

The 2A crowd are the ICE agents

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[-] Test_Tickles@lemmy.world 30 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

What would happen? Your house and at least five other houses around it would be riddled with so much lead that it would be declared a hazmat site. They would then "find" 40 bags of cocaine on property. Each bag would be found by a different officer and oddly not one of them will have been hit by a bullet. 112 random weapons will be found on your property, often in the exact same place that the cocaine was found, but by completely different officers at different times.

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[-] Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 51 points 4 months ago

If not GeStaPo, why GeStaPo shape?

[-] MrSmith@lemmy.world 48 points 4 months ago

Thank god the US is fucking loaded with guns, so people can defend themselves.

/s

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 27 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

And yet we dont. This has always been the gun fetishists fantasy situation, but now that its here, they dont use their guns. Seems like they wasted their money.

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[-] sexy_peach@feddit.org 42 points 4 months ago

Free country 🦅🦅🦅🦅🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[-] Capricorn_Geriatric@lemmy.world 35 points 4 months ago

It is. Free for Trump to do as he pleases.

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[-] RedPandaRaider@feddit.org 38 points 4 months ago

God I hope more people will end up shooting or beating up ICE agents. What happened to your guys second amendment?

[-] theparadox@lemmy.world 43 points 4 months ago

They people who most vocally claim it is for use against a tyrannical government are happy that their government is abusing their black and brown neighbors.

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 36 points 4 months ago

So felony kidnapping and aggravated menace. If they refuse to identify I dont see why we have to assume they are officers.

[-] Medic8teMe@lemmy.ca 17 points 4 months ago

I see loads of people saying this. Doing however...

[-] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 26 points 4 months ago

卐 ᛋᛋ Nazi states of America ᛋᛋ 卍

[-] uriel238 24 points 4 months ago

I am failing to find either a list of ICE abduction / detention victims or a list of ICE officer-involved homicide.

In 2015 police officer-involved homicide (that's a euphemism for when a law-enforcement officer kills someone) averaged four victims a day, and those are the ones uncovered by activist groups who tracked incidents through news and obituaries.

So I cannot imagine a quota of 3000 abductions a day is going to proceed cleanly. Technically, they're succeeding at about 1100 abductions a day on average. We've seen their violence discipline and deescalation skills are wanting.

The only news I can find about ICE killing someone is from the Biden era, and only a few are reported.

So if anyone knows how often ICE pulls the trigger and kills (or seriously hospitalizes) members of the public, and can find me sources, please let me know. We should be tracking them, and we should be saying their names.

[-] witten@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I don't have that data for you, but don't forget that people also die in ICE detention, often due to withheld medical care.

EDIT: And apparently due to other reasons too...

[-] billwashere@lemmy.world 24 points 4 months ago

How much longer before one of these becomes an outright gun battle? Or some dude screaming “show me a warrant!!” while holding an AR15. I want someone to make these ICE fuckers scared to do this.

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[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago

man it sure would be a shame if ICE and LE assholes got treated the way they treated innocent people.

[-] tlekiteki@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 4 months ago

The good footage is already redacted..-

[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago

Yeah, they're not hiring the best and the brightest here but they are hiring the most supremacist and this is what happens when you let that take over.

I'd say that they could sue but given how the courts have been stacked, they really stand no chance.

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[-] npdean@lemmy.today 19 points 4 months ago

It was her lucky day that she was not shot

[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

Sick country and it is becoming worse.

[-] stringere@sh.itjust.works 14 points 4 months ago

Treat every firearm as if it is loaded
Never point a firearm at anything you are not willing to destroy
Keep your finger off the trigger until you are ready to shoot
Be sure of your target and what is behind it

I would say they are not following #2 but I am also pretty sure they are willing to destroy what they're pointing their weapons at in this situation. cunts

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