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[-] vaguerant@fedia.io 34 points 6 days ago

I kind of wish this headline just kept going.

Proton’s Lumo AI chatbot: not end-to-end encrypted, not open source, bad taste in music, murdered family of five

[-] fartographer@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago

Once refused to say hello into the phone a toddler handed to them, refused to talk to the stray cat like it could understand them, farted on the bus and blamed it on an old lady

[-] Kirk@startrek.website 2 points 5 days ago

why are you wishing for that lmao

[-] peanuts4life 14 points 6 days ago

While the open source argument is valid, the end to end encryption critique is a bit odd to me. It is, by definition, end to end encrypted, and proton claims that the chat history is stored locally on your device and is blindly encrypted at rest on their servers, same as in their email system.

The individual messages do have to be decrypted for inference option arrival, but really there isn't another option.

What I'd like to see is evidence of 3rd party audits on this scheme in addition to more information on the models used.

[-] Cevilia 12 points 6 days ago

I'm so glad I'm letting my Proton subscription lapse when it runs out. I want away from that ridiculous mess of enshittification.

[-] nfreak@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 days ago

I recently switched to their VPN for torrenting because Mullvad doesn't support port forwarding but the company as a whole really rubs me the wrong way for so many reasons.

I'll probably just say fuck it and go back to Mullvad when the subscription expires, now that I built the bulk of my local library I can deal with losing port forwarding.

[-] Mothra@mander.xyz 5 points 6 days ago

Are you on their VPN? What service will you go for if so?

[-] a_person@piefed.social 8 points 6 days ago

Mullvad vpn is prob the next closest.

[-] Mothra@mander.xyz 3 points 6 days ago

Iirc it might also be the only and last decent one left around, but I'm not really keeping up with news. My Proton subscription will also lapse in a couple months so I might have to ask for Lemmy's advice on the matter again.

[-] Cevilia 2 points 5 days ago

No, I'm not. I was mostly just using them for email.

[-] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 7 points 6 days ago

They really don't help themselves. Their target customer is not the same as Gmail users.

It is tho. It is exactly that. People that have no clue about security and open source, but want to get away from google stuff.

this post was submitted on 03 Aug 2025
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