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Fewer tourists from other nations would be a contributing factor. ICE in general may be more. Perhaps economy isn't as great as our Fuhrer wants us to think.
Not in my experience, living and clubbing, in São Paulo. Can't really compare with pass years, since I'm being living here just for two years, but all the parties I go are really packed.
Unfair to compare Sao Paulo, brother
Ice
I've noticed that general traffic in the Central Florida area, where traffic is usually among the very worst on the entire East Coast, has been much lighter lately.
We know that cops are profiling people, and pulling over Hispanics for false reasons, so my speculation is that people are staying off the roads except when absolutely necessary.
I also believe that Hispanic parents are telling their kids to stay in the house with their friends, and not go out and drive around. Remember when you were a teen, and would drive all day because at least you were out of the house and away from the parents? If those kids get in some trouble, it could easily find its way back to the parents, and the next thing you know, the entire family is on its way back to Honduras. So parents are warning their kids of the serious consequences of even a minor issue.
I think a lot of people are laying low.
Going to a club sounds beyond exhausting
Just stay in the dark with sun glasses swaying lightly and will be able to go all night long
People are terrified.
Everyone is more subdued, people are going into debt as prices continue to shoot up when they're already stretched to their limit, and ice is kidnapping people willy nilly
Oh, plus tourism is basically over
All in all, this doesn't surprise me. Things are getting very bad
All in all, this doesn't surprise me. Things are getting very bad
And we're still in the good times. My therapist asks me why my scores for happy/hopefulness are low and the anxiety/depression scores are high every week, and I can't help but gesture wildly at the state of the world.
Fucking figures that I'd get 2008'd again right as I start getting my life together.
Man I feel you. I started therapy a little over a year ago and mental health has improved a thousand fold, but I feel like it's too late and the country is only a few years away from falling completely.
People are terrified.
Funny way to spell "poor."
Average people aren't nearly as worried about ICE as they should be, but people are definitely feeling the pinch of a dying middle-class and wealth inequality skyrocketing.
It's not just money. There's very real fear as well, it's both
just look at vegas/reno, dead city, actually dying before trump came in, he just accelerated it, plus state schools in west coast was suffering enrollment problems for the whole pandemic as well(prior to trump), last article i read is the schools are so desperate they have becoming offering easy admissions to the schools to hs students if they complete minimum amount of these courses, i dont know how long this will last, from what ive gathered almost everyone who was in school during the pandemic had really negative experience(dint learn much) after graduating. and people's futures are uncertain as the schools arnt offering much in career development.
csu system felt like it was on the verge of collapse; i think only a few schools were not suffering severely.
UC doesnt seem to suffer the same effect though, at least not yet.
All colleges went through the millennial wave, so there are fewer American college aged students to teach. It wouldn't be that big of a problem, but Trump's immigration policy is killing foreign enrollment, which is going to collapse a major revenue stream for universities.
The climbing gym is fucking packed though
that would be different from a BAR /club area, where people go to pickup other people.
Covid surge this summer
Too fucking expensive.
And at least for me, I have little interest in alcohol-centric outings because transportation becomes an issue.
Not really no. The ones I go to are busy as ever.
No, but I only go to bars for events. Here where I live the bars I go to are packed
I imagine there's a lot less tourists since ICE started showing up in big numbers in LA. The presence of a large oppressice force also makes some question whether they want to go out or not, especially those close to the people who have been kidnapped.
not just ice, but border/custom detainment, requiring review of your phone of any anti-trump, anti-zionist material, which already deter tourist, plus canadians dont like trump constant messaging of invading thier country.
That's true, international tourism is down across the country, not just domestic tourism.
I mean here in Canada why would I go to a bar and spend like $12 on a single pint of beer when I can go to the store and pay the same amount and get like 6 pints?
Back in my 20's when I could go to the bar and pay $1.50 for a pint of PBR, sure it made sense. it was cheaper and i was with friends. I could get drunk on the cheap and have a good time.
now? there's no point. Cheap Dive bars (the ones I used to frequent) are going the way of the buffalo and in my city there's literally like only one left out of the dozens I used to go to all the time. I'm not paying over $10 for a single beer. Plus the patrons that still do go to bars are crap. they all would rather be on their phones then have a conversation at the bar.
so to sum up A. it's more expensive and B. younger generations killed the vibe.
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...Might help to mention what hemisphere you're in, or continent you're on? Or country? Or city?
The reason for your local change in nightlife could be anything from a wide, wide range of reasons, almost all of which depend heavily on where you are.
Let's not be like the uncouth Defaultist Americans that assume everybody in the world lives where they do. Let's be better, and let's provide a location when it's key info.
If you just looked at the replies you would think OP said they were on an expired visa in Los Angeles.
I get that the ICE situation is scary, but for most of the world, this isn't a concern, the world economy however is always shifting and America is definitely on a downturn, as wages stagnate and prices skyrocket even before the full weight of the tariff nonsense hits. I don't know about other countries, but the US is going to be just like every other developing nation with a vast swath of citizens living in shanties while a few dozen people hold ALL the money.
In many places, people are still going out and partying, but also in much of the world, the idea of "clubbing" isn't nearly as popular and people tend to gather in streets and neighborhoods to celebrate and get drunk.
Yeah they be from somewhere outside the united states like Hawaii
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Nobody has money to burn.
I mean, I could go to a bar and get a $10 drink.
Or, I could have a whole-ass $11 bottle of wine, at home, in the quiet, with my dogs and a damn good book.
In addition to Summer Student Season, I hear there's a lot of ICE pouring through LA this year.
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Trump economy. Enough said
The economy was due for a recession. It just happened to be that Trump has done a lot of things to make it worse.
It's bigger than one administration. Capitalism separates the majority of people from their wealth, which destroys their ability to go out to the club. All of that money you hear about that billionaires and even millionaires make is just the club money that you and I use to have. Now, instead of going to club, we sit in the dark and watch the ultrawealthy fly really high and call it space travel.
Everything that they have was taken from you and I.
thats why vegas/reno is also dead from what ive read on reddit(people are asking why it so dead). besides the tariffs/and detention of tourists which also is one primary reason. vegas is a failing city for quite a number of years already. losing out to ONLINE gaming, and sports isnt going to save the city if nobody is going there.
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It's a financial thing. There's a K shaped economy, with no middle class, and the lower class dealt with inflation for a while with credit card debt... and... those credit cards are filled up.
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No money and too expensive. Your option for water is sold in a can that costs $5. Alcoholic drinks are almost double the price now. And at least for my city, the bar districts are now just full of assholes who post-pandemic seemed to forget how to act in public especially when alcohol is involved.
People just spent a few hundred dollars taking their families to watch the 2 biggest movies of the summer and now in 2 weeks the kids return to school and need supplies. Money is tight right now and priorities.
a few hundred dollars takint their families to watch the 2 biggest movies of the summer
How big are these families? Partner, step daughter, and I recently went a three tickets, three drinks, and three snacks was less than fifty quid.
Quid… not sure what they charge for movies over there but here in the states it’s $50 per person for a full ride. Take a regular family with 2 adults and 2 kids, $50 each. That’s where I got the number.
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