I always thought it was because the steppe ended in roughly where Hungary is today. Couldn't feed their horses or create a supply line deep into Europe proper. It was also too decentralized to just sack one or two cities and have the whole continent. Realistically, it was probably due to internal politics though. They couldn't manage an empire of that size without serious reform.
The Mongols couldn't handle forests.
More like they got lucky they stumbled onto a land teeming with resources that saw war as an exhibition sport and not a "who can do the most genocide" competition.
How was the destruction wrought by the Mongols “incurred” - do you think they’re god’s punishment for something?
Yes
You're half right. White people are not superior. HOWEVER... Your argument as to why is complete trash. The Mongol empire as impressive as it was didn't touch SE Asia, India, most of Russia, the entire fucking continent of Africa, or anywhere not connected to Eurasia. Also it wasn't the Mongols who burned the great library of Alexandria.
Where did I applaud the Mongols? Also, they burned the Library of Baghdad.
They're just saying that many other parts of the world weren't scourged by Mongols so the theory that Europe rose to prominence because it was spared doesn't really hold water.
That's if I understood them correctly.
The post is a jab at the recent controversy on Sydney Sweeney ad for American Eagle jeans, claiming there is white supremacist undertone, not about being spared from the Mongol invasion itself is what lifts societies to prominence.
Do you have any idea of how much war and destruction the European countries have committed against each other? It is not so simple as to say "peace is the only driver of prosperity and science".
You can't really dismiss the main text of the post and claim the subtext makes it irrelevant.
Europe was considered a backwater fringe by the time the Mongols under Subutai arrived. I mean, if Europe is inherently superior, it would not have been considered as "backwater" in the first place. The more prosperous and more developed areas then were Middle East, Central Asia and the Far East. If the Mongols continued advancing and ravaged those who did not submit, Europe would have been set back a lot further or may not even have ever become the major power as it did. Being unscathed by the Mongol destruction gave them a leg up later. It is very much the same story as the USA. US was considered second or at the very least third rate by Europeans. But not being destroyed by the Second World War and one of the two remaining major economy and manufacturing country gave US it the massive advantage post-war.
A couple of things come to mind.
Didn't the mongols ravage poland? That's Europe. Meaning Europe did not get spared.
European philosophy and math started back with ancient greece. They were ahead of the rest of the world in geometry and math in the year 1000 B. C.
But empires come and go. The next empire took the science and further improved. The romans, Macedonians, ottomans etc. Europe is not one people.
At the time of the mongols the Catholics were in charge of most of Europe. Kingdoms were organized. "Backwater" might be a bit of a stretch?
There was war between the Christians and the Muslims at the time so Europeans might have been expecting attack. It might have been very difficult for the mongols to conquer the European territories.
Millions of Europeans preferred USA over europe for the last three centuries because the opportunities were scarce. Europeans were mainly a farmer people so land was equal to prosperity. They gave out farm land for free back then. Which one would you prefer?
Strawman. Original Commenter (OC) didn't say you applauded the Mongols. All we're doing in this thread is correcting facts, not applying judgements
My Wrangler jeans are so tough they can't even be destroyed by the NX-5 planet destroyer
I read a theory somewhere that the Mongols use of dead bodies as weapons is major factor creating the black plague.
This theory is on Wikipedia:
Some studies indicate the Black Death, which devastated Europe in the 1340s, may have traveled from China along the trade routes of the Mongol Empire. In 1347, the Genoese possessor of Caffa, a great trade emporium on the Crimean Peninsula, came under siege by an army of Mongol warriors under the command of Janibeg. After a protracted siege during which the Mongol army was reportedly withering from disease, they decided to use the infected corpses as a biological weapon. The corpses were catapulted over the city walls, infecting the inhabitants.[142][143] The Genoese traders fled, transferring the plague via their ships into the south of Europe, from where it rapidly spread. The total number of deaths worldwide from the pandemic is estimated at 75–200 million with up to 50 million deaths in Europe alone.[103]
My question is, where does one purchase a pair of superior jeans, and are they really as durable as the name implies?
...or is there some other aspect that makes said jeans superior?
I have some AE jeans that are made out of some kind of stretchy shit that are pretty great. Can't speak to the durability because I mostly wear them to my office job so they're not getting a ton of wear and tear but they're pretty old at this point and no real signs of wear on them from that.
Superior Jeans ^(or how I wrote a poem & you learned I was da bomb)
I own a pair of stretchy jeans; they make my legs look mean
Superior jeans are an obscenity
I feel superior in my gender-indfferent-inity
Blue, gray - you always tend to fray I still love you anyway
My Jeans have an elastic waist. Do I have the superior jeans now ?
Yes, although you are now depriving yourself of having a superior belt, or; dare I say ... superior suspenders!!
I have Jack and Jones jeans for years and haven't had a problem with them. They still look as new as on the day I bought them. Plus they're more affordable.
My jeans have a gusseted crotch.
Europeans crusading in the Middle East praised the Mongols (under the Prester John myth) as they crushed their muslim enemies.
Meanwhile Europeans prayed for a savior against the other branch Mongols spreading across Russian lands.
It'a been 20 years but I seem to remember it was the Mongols in the north of Europe that secured tributary vassals and opted not to return to Mongolia for electing a new Khan and the lineage of Jochi became rather independent. They moved south around the Black and Caspian Seas instead.
Not one race, nor any race is better, if you believe one race is above others, if you believe skin colour is predictive of anything, you are the inferior person over all others, because you are an idiot for believing bullshit. You're not intelligent enough to get over propaganda.
"White" is sort of inferior as a concept of a race, because it's not even a single race. Just whatever is convenient for racism. Sometimes, Jewish people are white, and sometimes they aren't, for example.
Race isn't actually a thing, it's a categorical method of sorting ethnicities into groups based on variable forms of bigotry.
Rise of west is more attributed to the colonization no? They did have really good naval technology.
It was the black death.
It caused wages to rise due to the reduction in available labour force, and increased social mobility (through the amount of positions it left available) and personal wealth of the survivors (through inheritance and looting), kick-starting the renaissance.
From there, it was all dominoes. More wealth allowed more commerce and innovation (here's where the naval technology comes in), which led to the discovery and ransacking (and eventual colonisation of America) which led to more wealth and commerce and innovation and social mobility, which led to less social stability, wars, more innovation, a series of political, social, and industrial revolutions, a vicious circle of runaway capitalism devouring everything in its path, the ideal of eternal growth, and the raping to death of the only world we have.
No black death, we'd probably still be living in the middle ages (with better plows and bigger cathedrals, sure, there was still plenty of innovation back then), and complaining about the cold instead of the ever rising heat.
kind of a weird way to frame it
The Americans are doing something again aren't they
The idea of 'superior genes' is a myth that flows out of noble class animal breeding
It was folded into 'divine right' as one of the many stupid reasons they justified their power and luxury
The rich bred dogs and horses and saw inheritable traits and then just applied that to people with zero actual understanding of biology and genetics.
I've seen a lot more people complaining about people complaining about American Eagle supposedly supporting eugenics than I have people complaining about American Eagle supporting eugenics
This sentence is upsetting for multiple reasons
In my defense it was like 1am when I wrote it and I was very sleepy
That's a good defense. Understandable.
American Eagle probably doesn't make good jeans. They didn't 20 years ago last i went in that store. I don't see why saying someone has good genes is inherently racist though. That model from the ad is proportioned in a way that sells clothes or whatever. I don't see how it's different than saying a body builder that is symmetrical and well proportioned has good genes. No one thinks it's racist to say Ronnie Coleman has good genes (and no one doubts it. ) Or LeBron James (whose son is also a pro athlete.) If AA had used a brown model the controversy would be the same except replace racist with great replacement. Outrage drives engagement and that sells pants. American Eagle is working hand in glove with Trump to distract from the disastrous economy and sex traffiking.
The language used on the ad isn’t racist.
Using language that sounds just like racist eugenics being told to viewers by a beautiful blond haired, blue eyed woman is a little suspicious or tone deaf.
It seems more likely to me that they were making a euphemistic pun about her breasts. What do they have to gain by going mask off?
This already got them more attention than anything they’ve ever done before. I would say that it’s a net positive for them.
It is very much in character for white supremacists to claim innocence or do the “it’s just a joke bro” routine.
I doubt the ad men are white supremacists or otherwise ideologically motivated here, they just want to maximize the impact of the ad because profits.
They were just saying she has a banging body.
"I can say that as a pun but you can't, na na na-na na".
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