Once again, this time everybody join in, "electric cars aren't here to save the planet they're here to save the car industry."

Electric vehicles don't really solve any of the problems that cars have. They just shift the resource and environmental problems into a different arena.

It seems to me that the most effective way of dealing with personal vehicles is to use renewable power to produce gasoline (Blue crude).

That way your gasoline is carbon neutral or even carbon negative until you burn it, can actually be kept sterile and separate and only mixed on demand so it doesn't go bad, and never has any sulfur in it because it's made from scratch.

It also means that all of the vehicles that currently exist can still be used which would dramatically reduce the amount of energy necessary to keep a functional fleet of vehicles and doesn't need everything to be replaced including the infrastructure.

Peaker plants could be built to soak up all of the extra renewable power when production is so much higher than demand so there's no need to worry about where you get the power to do this.

There are solutions out here but they require a kind of rearrangement of how we do business at almost every level.

They must have interviewed idiots

Norway, where I live, have invested a lot in the charging infrastructure since 2010. In 2024 9/10 cars registered were electric.

This far into the year, and the amount of newly registered electric cars is 94,1%. Tesla is 17% of the sales, they're having a very good financing campaign on the new model Y. VW is second with 14%.

In countries where the infrastructure is good, a decent car with long range and is "cheap" is king.

Elon Musk is turning US liberals off not just Tesla but billionaires in general

FTFY

I think only extremely expensive luxury models being available is keeping Americans from buying EVs. Like where are the cheap, dependable small cars, like in other countries!?

Are you sure it's not that North American EVs are fucking awful and expensive? And that foreign ones have artificial restrictions to prop up the out-of-touch NA manufacturers?

I would love to have an electric vehicle. But first, I'd need to live somewhere with an appropriate power outlet near a reliable parking space.

I'm an apartment dweller that is lucky to find parking in front of my own home on Friday nights (when there are always more cars than usual.) I can only imagine how many people are in the same situation. Meanwhile, with the housing situation as it is, our ability to move to affordable houses (which could provide such power outlets) dwindles more every day. In this way, creating more affordable housing could lead more people to drive electric vehicles, simply by removing the barriers currently preventing them from doing so.

Hmmm. It's almost like multiple facets of society... intersect somehow. Like if we were to improve one aspect, it could have a ripple effect that benefits other parts. So weird, right? Who would'a thunk it.

If US liberals can't see the difference between Tesla cars and any old EVs, fuck US liberals quite frankly.

But I doubt it. If anybody is killing EVs in the US, it's Donald "What Epstein files?" Trump.

The theory put forth here doesn’t make a lot of sense. Are we sure left leaning people aren’t just becoming more anti-car in general?

For me, 5 years ago, buying an EV seemed like a great idea, albeit one I couldn’t really afford. But then I realized I could just reduce my driving by 90% and achieve the same benefit while saving money. So I don’t really need an EV anymore now that I barely ever drive.

He's also turning us off in general

Ill buy an EV when they can make one that has a decent range but also doesnt weigh 4 tons and cost $80k. As someone still driving what used to be a normal sized car 20 years ago, these monstrosities need to go.

Weve solved the issue of ICE pollution and created a million other problems. More pollution from tire wear, more pollution from battery waste, more pollution from producing giant battery sleds. More pollution from having to repave roads more often due to all these EVs weighing as much as two ICE cars… makes an efficient ICE engine in a small car seem like way less of a problem by comparison, at least to me

Uh, no? I want an EV, though I want a small one that has a light touch on the environment. It's true that I don't want one that's from a Nazi wannabe, but I do want an EV that has decent range and can transport my wife and me for daily tasks. But maybe I don't catch the attention of US EV makers because I'd rather an e-bike than an E-SUV?

Are they buying cargo bikes and lobbying for public transport improvements, or is this the stupidest timeline and we’re going to see liberals rolling coal in their diesel SUVs because fuck Elon?

I'm probably one of these. was thinking EV but now did a 180 and am going to get a big old gas or diesel truck off craigslist.

the upside is I drive maybe once a week and bike and scooter otherwise so my carbon impact will still be low. it's just to haul wood for woodworking or take my trailer to the campsite.

another upside by getting it used and fixing it up is reducing waste and avoiding a car payment. most EVs are still new enough you're unlikely to be able to buy them used cheaply. I can get a used usable truck for under 5 grand cash.

Build trains and bike lanes.

I'm still waiting for an EV minivan. And also ya know having the spare money which is a lot less under this admin because there's more uncertainty in everything and less regulation against exploitation.