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Internet Archive founder Brewster Kahle said that while the nonprofit organization has always functioned as a library, this new designation makes it easier to work with the other federal depository libraries. That, he said, is a service to everyone.

“ I think there is a great deal of excitement to have an organization such as the Internet Archive, which has physical collections of materials, but is really known mostly for being accessible as part of the internet,” Kahle said. “And helping integrate these materials into things like Wikipedia, so that the whole internet ecosystem gets stronger as digital learners get closer access into the government materials.”

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[-] pelya@lemmy.world 76 points 10 months ago

This means Trump can finally de-fund them

[-] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

No, it doesn't. It's still an independent entity. The right is already slinging around enough misinformation, we don't need to add any of our own.

[-] Zorsith 48 points 10 months ago

I'm inclined to consider it a honeypot tbh. Its too damn sus that the US government suddenly likes something like this.

[-] MudMan@fedia.io 19 points 10 months ago

You... know the US government isn't a person, right?

[-] SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world 38 points 10 months ago

Typically, no. This term, however...

[-] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

From what I hear as an outsider it‘s a bunch of fucking losers for the most part. Feel free to correct me if I‘m wrong, though.

[-] MudMan@fedia.io 11 points 10 months ago

Sure, but "bunch" is the operative word here. People in government don't agree with each other, kinda by design.

In this particular case this is a thing any one member of Congress can do unilaterally and a democrat senator from California just decided to do it. That particular fucking loser probably doesn't agree with a bunch of the other fucking losers on a bunch of stuff, including this one.

[-] Novi@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

You hit the nail on the head.

[-] nullroot@lemmy.world 33 points 10 months ago

I can't see anything good coming from this

[-] MudMan@fedia.io 24 points 10 months ago

How so? As far as I can tell all this means is they're added to a list of official places storing public documents. Beyond the slight bragging rights, slightly increased sense of legitimacy in upcoming lawsuits and... I guess the server costs? this seems pretty neutral. I don't even think you need the official designation to actually store the documents in question.

[-] lostoncalantha@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Lookup who the current dictator is of the US and you’ll have your answer.

[-] MudMan@fedia.io 7 points 10 months ago

So nothing good can come from this.

Why?

Donald Trump.

How does that follow? Again I ask, you are aware that the US government has more than one person in it, right?

[-] 0x0@infosec.pub 3 points 10 months ago

Ah yes. Lets not forget about the other one, felon musk

[-] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

The Internet archive is important and Trump now has control over it.

There. I simplified it for you.

[-] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Look again. Trump has no control over it. The Federal Depository designation basically just means that all official documents go to it for archiving. All Federal Depository libraries remain independent and receive no funding from the Government as a part of their membership in the program.

[-] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

They can redefine why that membership means at any time.

[-] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Yes, but that has always been the case. If they're going to do some undemocratic shenanigans, this designation doesn't make it any easier or harder.

[-] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

It’s possible I’m wrong about this. I’m just worried. I can’t see anything good coming from tying into the US government in any way right now.

[-] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

You're not wrong, but this isn't "tying into" the US Gov any more than your mailbox "ties into" the postal service by being approved by the postmaster general. Your mail carrier could throw a rock at it, but they could have done that before anyway.

[-] MudMan@fedia.io 2 points 10 months ago

He... does not at all. This is barely a ceremonial denomination meaning that they are a designated mirror of official US documentation. This has even less of an impact than their basic clasification as a library, it's unilaterally decided by just the one senator and is mostly PR. They could have stored the same documents without the designation, even.

This is all a search or wikipedia visit away. People really operate on the basis of seeing a headline, not even bothering to click through and just... making up what it means in their heads. We really need to get better at this, it's been decades of Internet and centuries of newspapers.

[-] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

This doesn't change anything about the ownership, governance, or control of the Internet Archive. It literally just means that all official government documents go to them for archiving. This is cool and neat and raises the profile of the Internet Archive, but other than that it doesn't really mean anything. Trump has exactly as much control over it now as he did before: none.

[-] nullroot@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Well, good. I hope it stays that way and I'll be cautiously optimistic it's actually a good thing. Thank you for the information.

[-] jaybone@lemmy.zip 19 points 10 months ago

Does this mean now they can be ordered to take down content?

[-] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

No. They remain independent.

Edit: well, ok, they can, but only in the way that they previously could: through a court order that would affect any library of any kind.

[-] prole 16 points 10 months ago

Seems like a terrible idea given what our federal government has become.

[-] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

The Federal government gets no control over the Internet Archive through this designation.

[-] prole 1 points 10 months ago
[-] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I'm not saying Trump wouldn't try to take such a thing, but this doesn't give him any more ability to do so than he had before. Obviously he's willing to be a fascist, so he doesn't need any change in an organization's designation to do something undemocratic toward them. He has exactly as much control as he had before. This doesn't change anything.

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

DEI and trans people removed, with the latter soon redirecting to a christian psychologist's website about "cluster B abuse" in 3...

[-] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

The Federal government has no direct or indirect control over the libraries in the FDLP.

[-] CleoCommunist@lemmy.ml 9 points 10 months ago

Guys fast! Save everything that annoys Trump, fast!

[-] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Trump has exactly as much control over it now as he did before: none. It literally just means that all official government documents go to them for archiving. This is cool and neat and raises the profile of the Internet Archive, but other than that it doesn't really mean anything. Trump can of course do some undemocratic shenanigans to them, but no more or less than he could before this designation.

[-] CleoCommunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

Yes, but undemocratic shenanigans arent rare

[-] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Again, it doesn't matter for this news. The ease of undemocratic shenanigans toward the Internet Archive has not changed.

[-] CleoCommunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago
[-] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

I strongly recommend that a whole bunch of people actually look up what the FDLP is before commenting. Trump doesn't "have control" over the Internet Archive.

[-] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 3 points 10 months ago
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