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[-] percent@infosec.pub 56 points 4 days ago

I wonder how long this will last. The NSFW industry is insanely huge. If the current payment processors cut it off, that leaves a giant gap in the market just waiting to get filled (😏).

If they hold firm on this, it might just be a rare opportunity for a new (and hopefully better) payment processor to enter the market.

Or maybe just wider crypto adoption, idk.

[-] Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I have no idea why all of a sudden payment processors care bout anything but money. What happened ?

[-] shneancy@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

Collective Shout happened, an australian organisation decided to wage global war on anything NSFW in games (so far), their key talking points are allegedly being feminist and anti-exploitation of women.

i wonder if they asked the women they're saying they're protecting if they want that "protection", or if they're imagining that women just don't make NSFW art

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[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 3 days ago

Time for Europe to get its own payment processor and stop being dependent on companies from Gilead.

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Undoing all the gains made during the sexual revolution. Conservatives taking us back to the puritanical dark ages.

[-] lurch@sh.itjust.works 74 points 4 days ago

It's not even conservative any more. It's regressive.

[-] UnpledgedCatnapTipper 37 points 4 days ago

Always has been

[-] _g_be@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago

These conservatives are old, so they are trying to "conserve" ideals that were out of touch in their own time

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[-] GraniteM@lemmy.world 126 points 4 days ago
[-] Kraven_the_Hunter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

This is why some of us love crypto currencies so much despite the hate it gets from so many who claim there is no intrinsic value, it's a scam, etc.

Stay away from shit coins, no doubt, but the intrinsic value is that you can side step all of the bullshit and spend your money as you choose. No need to get permission first. It's looking to be a much better path forward, and payment processors inserting their own rules will only drive more acceptance of alternative payment methods.

[-] tempest@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago

I mean this is a false dichotomy. You can have a payment system that isn't a shit show like crypto or a duopoly like Visa and Mastercard.

??? Nothing about what I said was a dichotomy of any kind. Where did I exclude the possibility to create something else?

All I did was use this situation to illustrate why crypto has value today.

[-] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 4 days ago

Speed running the porn companies making their own payment processor

[-] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 4 days ago

AFAIK there's pay processing business that will do nsfw transactions but they ask for extra money.

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[-] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 28 points 4 days ago

Imagine how many more "Thomas Matthew Crooks" are gonna come out of their basements if you ban their porn. Conservatives secretly love their porn. Might wanna rethink the ban.

Or not, I don't mind watching a IRL live movie about a rebellion instigated by...

checks notes

...banning porn 🤦‍♂️🤣

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[-] shneancy@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

what even is the point of this cyberpunk dystopia if there won't even be good porn to wank to?

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[-] niva@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 4 days ago

I don't get it. Will they also ban sex shops, adult cinemas and every other offline adult entertainment thing that exist?

[-] Captainautism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 4 days ago

Now that weed is being widely accepted legally, porn is the new prohibition.

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[-] bier@feddit.nl 26 points 4 days ago

This comic goes from 2020 to 1984, was this comic originally about idiots that compared wearing a face mask to wearing a jew star?

[-] Hoimo@ani.social 25 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Worse, it was when Twitter banned Trump. This is just like when the Savage John asked to be exiled from the World State but the Controller forces him to engage in society to torture him.

[-] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

There was a reddit sub where they take in unfunny comics (usually sexist) and then edit them to be funny. That's how this actually became a meme.

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[-] sprite0@sh.itjust.works 77 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

i wonder if this is the shitgibbons in charge trying to drive up bitcoin prices seeing as how they just publicly bought a bunch of bitcoin.

i know the payment processors have always been prudes but they are really doubling down and its only going to drive folks to crypto.

edit: I don't think it's a good idea either but talk to anyone outside lemmy and ask if they understand the environmental impact of crypto and AI and they have no clue.

[-] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 53 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Bitcoin is really bad for using as currency, due to the fact that there is a permanent, public ledger of all transactions. Why would you want anyone you pay to be able to see and trace every transaction you've ever made? Pay rent in bitcoin, now your landlord can calculate your spending and who you do transactions with. And yes, there are services that aggregate and obfuscate transactions in order to make them less traceable, but now you've just reinvented the same centralized payment processor system that the whole thing is supposed to be replacing... so... what's the point?

Cash is good for using as currency.

[-] lurch@sh.itjust.works 14 points 4 days ago

so... what's the point?

The point isn't anonymity, but independence and autonomy. It's hard to shut down and hard to tax. The banks/governments can't freeze your bitcoins, nor can they simply print more or regulate the value otherwise.

[-] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

The banks/governments can't freeze your bitcoins, nor can they simply print more or regulate the value otherwise.

You're just listing reasons why bitcoin sucks lol. Oh no!!! Flight risk criminals and terrorists had their accounts frozen!!! Oh no, ReGuLaTiOn BaD!!! Grow up.

Finite currencies (like gold/silver/bitcoin) are deflationary currencies and are genuinely absolutely terrible for an economy. That's why we don't use gold anymore.

[-] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 days ago

"Flight risk criminals and terrorists had their accounts frozen!!!"

Yes, those criminals, for example, LGBT people who conservatives believe are pornographic simply for existing. God forbid LGBT artists want to have a way of earning a living. Crypto is relied on by a lot of marginalized groups. It's used by artists who make perfectly legal art, but whose content conservatives object to. Crypto is used by many queer content creators as they face being cut off from payment processing systems, as again, conservatives consider queer people pornographic simply for existing. Crypto is used by sex workers, often people with few other employment options. Oh, and crypto is used by trans people to get access to healthcare that is quickly being criminalized.

How insane do you have to be, in 2025 Trump's America, to fall back on the idea that anything criminal is bad. Republicans are trying to criminalize the existence of entire swathes of the population. And those people face being cut off from the banking system entirely, if folks like you, who blindly consider legality=morality, have their way.

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[-] Limonene@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago

Sex art is art

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 67 points 5 days ago

Let's make a community run payment processor then. We'll valiantly process porn payments.

[-] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 26 points 4 days ago

Having worked in the payment industry, there is a lot of work to be done.

Even if you use the EMV standard, which almost all of the payment processor are based on, the challenge is to interface with the banks and making sure that every cards and terminals follow your standard.

And that's if you can convince banks to even accept you payment standard in the first place.

[-] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 16 points 4 days ago

Mastercard? No sorry, we only take WokeCoin 🤷‍♂️

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[-] mrslt@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago

So, why doesn't some other payment processor step in to fill in the demand gap that the others are willfully abdicating?

[-] sprite0@sh.itjust.works 40 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

the economic moat of regulations and infrastructure that has to be overcome before you even can start acquiring customers. You would need a massive capital outlay just to start in last position to compete. Then you have to pay your sydadmins and sales and help desk and administration for how long before you have enough customers to break even? all on a gamble that the government won't hamstring you on behalf of their corporate sponsors. and who is to say the rest of the financial world won't cut you off; you can't process payments if you can't access users banks, it's all cooperative between entities that benefit from it being a small club.

all of this risk to capture the relatively small nsfw market looks like a bad gamble to me, even though i strongly support the nsfw market myself! I spent decades in e-commerce and nsfw ecommerce and it's trickier than it might look.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 days ago

The most likely to succeed at the moment, IMHO, would be a standardization of the various local payment systems in Europe, and there is already some movement in that direction in a growing group of countries, but it probably needs a push from the EU itself, similarly to how GSM was pushed as a standard for mobile communications by European governments as a group and ended up dominating globally (which is also why, for a period and until smartphones became a thing, European mobile telephony companies were wildly successful).

I'm sorry for Americans who aren't assholes (most here in Lemmy as far as I can tell) but the rest of the World does need to decouple from speed-running-to-Gilead America at all levels before it's too late.

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[-] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

I'm not a cryptobro but these things make me want to hodl on some

[-] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

cryptocurrency is absolutely not going to be a substitute. what happens when your client's money drops in value halfway through working on their commission?

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[-] amikulo@slrpnk.net 13 points 4 days ago

I was worried that this could make bitcoin seem useful but other people in here are explaining why bitcoin would still be an awful solution for this.

So... are we going back to cash and checks? Will people need to mail envelopes of cash to furry vore artists?

[-] Atlas_@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Bitcoin wouldn't be an awful solution to this, but there's certainly a few better ones, such as

  • Visa and MC just being the opinionless payment providers they ought to be.
  • Regulation enforcing all payment providers to be similarly opinionless.
  • Ethereum, or another crypto more suited to many, fast payments
  • A layer-2 network over Bitcoin that can enable many fast payments, such as the lightning network.
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[-] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 26 points 5 days ago

Capitalism is actually the fix for this one for once. Just be the only payment processor that lets you buy anything legal. Demand for your services guarantees your success and the others die out.

Let’s see if republicans still like capitalism now.

[-] Katana314@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago

Ah, and here is where the commenter learns that “capitalist” competitors have legislated their opponents out of business, bought them out, or colluded with them.

Oh, and it’s not just payment processors.

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[-] Butterpaderp@lemmy.world 30 points 4 days ago

Capitalism isn't the fix, banks are in cahoots with visa/mastercard and they will absolutely shut down any competition.

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[-] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 30 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

So, this means that pretty much any paid adult content can't accept visa, right? Or are they just stomping in the small creators for not being profitable enough?

Looking at you, OnlyFans..

[-] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 35 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

For now, they are targeting more niche “taboo” kinks like incest and bdsm. But as we’ve seen time and time again with bigoted, puritanical christofascists, they will not stop there. Next, they come for the queer content. My guess is furry stuff is next under the bad faith argument of “bestiality”, then more standard queer content, including tame non-erotic content. Finally, all erotic content.

Remember, everything sexual is sinful and evil unless its a straight white cis Christian married couple having joyless missionary sex for the purposes of procreation only.

[-] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 13 points 4 days ago

Valve has changed their content guidelines due to the requirements of the credit card processors. Itch.io, too. I wouldn't call Valve niche.

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago

They're already attacking furry content featuring "animal-esque genitalia", as there were people who thought that was "zoophilic". However, I still remember how much anime fans needed to fight, so that kemonomimi (catgirls, etc.) wouldn't been labeled as "zoophilic", which might be the source for the furry/anime divide in the west.

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[-] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 2 points 3 days ago

Tupã bless Brazil's pix.

At least I can still buy porn from local furry artists.

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