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[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 203 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

This is a clickbait headline from Tom’s, as that’s not how the speech was worded. Per their own cherry picked quotes

Trump continued, "I said, 'Who the hell is he? What's his name?' 'His name is Jensen Huang, Nvidia, ' I said, 'What the hell is Nvidia?' I've never heard of it before.

The context being he had never really heard of Nvidia before they got so high profile, like most of the US population.

Tom's does this all the time; they’re notorious for it in the PC Hardware news community.


Yes Trump is an idiot and his speeches are stupid, but can we please not have ragebait stretching it even more?

I’m sorry to keep bringing this up and getting so sour, but I feel like Lemmy's information hygiene is deteriorating, and we're happily upvoting it away. Big community mods need to put their foots down and put up basic soft rules, like:

[-] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 61 points 5 days ago

Trying to put Trump quotes into context is like trying to read a Pollock, it's not possible and it's not supposed to be. Your interpretation really didn't change any of the meaning for me, and it certainly didn't contradict the headline.

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 40 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Here's the actual video source, skipped to the relevant context:

https://youtu.be/BrTT7dX0mcQ?t=851

And if you don't want that, a clip of the auto transcript I ripped from YouTube:

...And a very special thanks to some of the top industry leaders including somebody that's amazing. I said, "Look, we'll break this guy up." This is before I learned the facts of life. I said, "We'll break them up." They said, "No, sir. It's very hard." I said, "Why?" I said, "What percentages of the market does he have?" I said, "He has 100%." I said, "Who the hell is he? What's his name?" His name is Jensen Wong. Nvidia. I said, "What the hell is Nvidia? I've never heard of it before." He said, "You don't want to know about it, sir." I figured we could go in and we could sort of break them up a little bit, get them a little competition. And I found out it's not easy in that business. I said, "Supposing we put the greatest minds together. They work hand in hand for a couple of years." He said, "No, it would take at least 10 years to catch him if he ran Nvidia totally incompetently from now on." So, I said, "All right, let's go on to the next one." And then I got to know Jensen, and now I see why. Jensen, will you stand up? What a job. What a job you've done, man. Great. It's a great He's a great guy, too. Lisa...

Trump's clearly referencing learning about Nvidia in the past, and getting to know Jensen. He's telling a story about pondering breaking up Nvidia and putting together a government chip development effort before he learned the finer details on what they do. Tom's headline, on the other hand:

President Trump threatened to break up Nvidia, didn't even know what it was — 'What the hell is Nvidia? I've never heard of it before'

Is worded to imply Trump 'threatened' Nvidia blindly, or that he didn't know who Nvidia is during or just before the speech, cherry picking a quote with no context. It's technically plausibly deniable.

Call it what you want, but that is classic tabloid journalism from Tom's.

The headline contradicts what Trump was saying. It sort of contradicts their own article.

[-] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 days ago

Thanks for all the info. He talks about learning about Nvidia in the past, and mentions talking about breaking it up. That doesn't sound like a business man talking about getting involved in the company, or competing against it, that sounds like a politician wanting to address a very strong company. Trump has only been a politician for the past 9 years. So Trump just found out about the largest chip designer in the world 9 years ago... That seems absurd to me.

[-] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

If it was so clear, we wouldn't be having this conversation because I disagree. Like I said, even all that context doesn't actually give any context because nothing Trump says really has any meaning. When he says something happened "in the past", it could mean it happened at literally any time previously, it could mean he expects it to happen soon and as such is an inevitability so he just says it already happened, it could mean it never happened and never will. But even taking him at his word, nothing from that "context" makes me any less likely to believe he found out what Nvidia was minutes before taking the stage. And even if he did know what Nvidia was "in the past", he did try to break it up without knowing what it was, so where's the contradiction? I don't see how that headline is implying any kind of timeframe, inaccurate or otherwise.

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[-] wewbull@feddit.uk 3 points 5 days ago

That's just the same as the article. Same quotes.

[-] 0x0@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 days ago
[-] Batman@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

It powers a tesler

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but they got high profile in like the 90s three decades ago

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

To PC gamers and hardware nerds. Not to the average person or the high levels of US politics.

As I often say, Lemmy skews really techy, but most people don’t know anything about this stuff.

[-] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I mean I realize we're talking about a moron here but grammar is important:

"I've never heard of them" vs "I had never heard of them"

So no, not clickbait.

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Trump continued, "I said, 'Who the hell is he? What's his name?' 'His name is Jensen Huang, Nvidia, ' I said, 'What the hell is Nvidia?' I've never heard of it before.

The journalist pretty clearly put the quotation marks in the wrong place. It should be this:

Trump continued, "I said, 'Who the hell is he? What's his name?' 'His name is Jensen Huang, Nvidia, ' I said, 'What the hell is Nvidia? I've never heard of it before.'

He's quoting himself, in the past, saying "What the hell is Nvidia? I've never heard of it before." He's not saying that he hasn't heard of NVIDIA in the present moment. The context makes that clear, because in the next paragraph he describes how he got to know Jensen Huang and learn about NVIDIA. But the journalist closed the quote too early, making it a bit nonsensical. On this rare occasion, Trump was not being 100% incoherent.

[-] artyom@piefed.social 3 points 5 days ago

I dunno. I feel like trying to make sense of anything he says is like trying to make sense of Bible verses. The only person who knows is the one who said it but they're incapable or unwilling to clarify.

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[-] Nalivai@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

Tim Nvidia will be pissed

[-] gonf@lemmy.world 54 points 5 days ago

This is the guy who, as president, literally asked "who knew health care was so complicated". And more recently, he thought he could waltz in any stop the fighting in the Middle East just by telling Israel and Palestine to get along, then threw a hissy fit when that didn't work.

How anyone takes this man seriously or thinks he's anything but a complete moron is beyond me. Not knowing what the fuck he's doing is literally his only move.

[-] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 5 days ago

Art of the Deal

[-] DandomRude@lemmy.world 51 points 5 days ago

Apart from the fact that Trump is a pedophile, rapist, fascist, and a criminal, he and his entire administration are also incredibly incompetent.

[-] teslasdisciple@lemmy.ca 71 points 5 days ago

Wait until he learns they make chips. I can totally see him saying if Lay's can make chips in the US then why can't nvidia?

[-] latenightnoir 23 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

"No, no, no, I like Pringles, Pringles are amazing, Pringles are great. Everybody here at the Oval Office loves Pringles, we can't get enough of'em."

Edit: on second thought... maybe you're right, Lay's come in bags, doubt those paragons of stupidity ever managed to figure out how the can works...

[-] SPRUNT@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

They're boycotting Pringles as an evil trap created by the democrats to trap their hands in the cans so they can't vote.

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[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 days ago

He'd be the first one to ask .... "Pringles come in a can? What are you talking about?"

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[-] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

Took me a second more then I care to admit.

Here I am thinking what does Lay's have to do with chips, made of silicon.

[-] Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 17 points 5 days ago

Good, NVIDIA can die for all I care with their anti consumer bullshit practises.

[-] latenightnoir 33 points 5 days ago

Omg, this guy's the fucking President of the USA... (I do have object permanence, yes, but he's so fucking dumb, that I frequently re-experience the shock)

[-] artyom@piefed.social 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Did you hear that he found proof (not evidence!) that Obama was "sedacious"?

Was his proof cutting up all the times his name appeared in the Epstein files and then spelling "OBAMA BAD" with the few letters of what was left?

[-] frezik 4 points 5 days ago

I once saw Obama having a covfefe.

[-] latenightnoir 2 points 5 days ago

... my brain wants to assume it's "seditious," but my heart knows any assumption would be bold when it's about what Trump meant...

[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 26 points 5 days ago

This felon rapist pedo is tanking fast.

[-] yagurlreese@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

😭😭😭 needs to go faster

[-] ptolemai@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

nVidia? I barely even know her.

[-] thatradomguy@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago

Please take away Chrome and Andriod from Google first, please. Thank you.

[-] StarryPhoenix97@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago

You have to be kidding me. Mr AI president doesn't know Nvidia? Their stock like quadrupled in value because of AI

[-] rockSlayer 10 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Do it you fucking coward. While we're at it, intel and amd as well. The tech oligopoly needs to fall

[-] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

when trump is evil but the nvidia ceo is even eviler.

[-] HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago

Has the Nvidia CEO sent swathes of innocent people into concentration camps?

And man, Trump's not even the most evil in his administration. That arguably goes to Stephen Miller.

[-] ceenote@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

I dunno, that's a pretty high bar to clear.

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[-] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 days ago

You know what? Good. Do it. Let’s see what happens.

[-] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

Whenever a company has reached a critical size or control of the market that it is no longer incentived to serve the interests of its customers and starts serving its shareholder's instead, it should be broken up. This is the only way you will see actual innovation and positive growth again.

Apple, Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Nvidia, Meta are only a few in a long list that are long overdue to be broken up.

That being said, Trump is more believably saying that to scare them into giving him a bride. He just pulled his head out of his ass just enough to hear about a "new" company with deep pockets and smelled the money.

[-] charade_you_are@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 days ago

Bet he won't be able to remember being a pedophile when the time comes.

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 days ago

Let him cook that one though

[-] yagurlreese@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

some people on this thread need to understand that two things can be true,

the headline can be misleading yea but it can also not really matter

in other words, I'm the grand totality of all the actually harmful things he has said and actions he is doing... this feels like a nothing burger to me lollll. So people think he can just wear his little fingers and Nvidia magically breaks up? even if he goes after th administratively, it's not like Nvidia would just roll over 😭it's just absurd to even take this seriously in the first place imo. idk I think it's funny people are debating about what he actually said when it doesn't really matter, dudes going senile and Nvidia is gigantic corporation that can defend itself and also fuck it I wouldn't mind if they got broken up tbh. people will find whatever to argue about

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