awww fuck. i didn't even see it at first but now I'm horrified 😂

haha wtf

haha I angry upvote 😆

https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-23-106047

once again it doesn't even matter the project is still hundreads of billions over budget. also just the fact that we haven't spent the money yet changes nothing.

you lads don't like to differentiate when it comes to actually useful public spending like healthcare initiatives or education reform.

so why should I distinguish here? in fact you're right. that figure will likely INCREASE

keep coping. keep coping that its actually good spending and that its all a okay. keep coping while people die and can't afford healthcare. while logistics companies struggle on failing infrastructure

honestly this has to be a joke if you think it changes anything. smh

I'm done with this convo.

my point is that its fucking dumb pointing out uae when America does dumb things on a much larger scale. we deserve at least 10x edits lmap

also we use slave labor here as well. look into the prisons

you pointing out that 'actually we haven't spent the full 1.7 trillion yet... we're just 183 billion over budget rn and those are just lifetime costs is honestly so dumb and distinction that adds nothing else to the conversation and doesn't change the fact that literal air force pilots hate the damn thing and you guys are over here posturing endlessly

how is this site worse than Reddit lol.

and also lets not forget America loves funding wars lol. so I don't even know what you're on about. sometimes it seems like we justify wars elsewhere so that sods like you can come and defend all this spending by pointing to problems we've created/exascurbated.

give me a break. f35 is the peacemaker you say? so ridiculous and you clearly don't understand foreign policy of you think the way you do.

what are you talking about?

BOTH there is no seperating the two!???? the f35 is an example out of many examples of govt over spending. and again the f35 is AWFUL for bang to the buck? what war do we need it for? what are we missing? https://www.defensenews.com/smr/hidden-troubles-f35 btw it's awful it's no secret that it is mid engineered

you're not gonna gas light me into saying that those are two separate discussions when they aren't.

there's no need to like, defend the f35 project. lmao the actual defense industry is aware of its issues.

just trying to figure out where this 'bang for our Buck' is coming from when there no shot were going to sell enough to offset the cost as well as them being buggy and hard to maintain. .you do know the us already has the strongest military BY FAR. It's pointless.

yes I disagree completely. at the current price point out current arsenal is already more than capable than pretty much the entire world bro.

we don't need another fucking fighter jet when there's people in your population struggling with medical debt. with not being able to afford where they live and no means to escape and ending homeless. With schools struggling for funding. with a decaying railroad system and general infrastructue.

seriously all the things and protections that made this country great pre Reagan (well besides y'know blatant segregation) are EVISCERATED and you guys are here giving them a pat on the back for freaking 1trillion plus to a still not complete and fully ready project. and even if it was complete we've FAR exceeded the value. like it's just not needed bro it's greed.

it drives me insane to see this, and how apathetic everyone is. are we ever going to wake up from this madness?

the point is. the f35 is a horribly over budget and unneeded venture. the USA doesn't need it. it's a military industrial complex thing. and you guys in chat going I don't get it... sigh. part of the problem lol. the uae buying them doesn't change the fact we've spent like ten x the budget. also lots of countries buy stuff from us. like the world's number one arms dealer so I don't even get YOUR point.

that's not a success and you're coping lol. there's an odd amount of America simps here lolol

my brother in christ, the USA has spent hundreds of billions-- nay TRILLIONS just on the f35 project

https://fortune.com/longform/lockheed-martin-f-35-fighter-jet/

lots of govts spend money on dumbass shit haha

yea exactly I'm sick of all this whataboutism about Hamas. Hamas is the sole response to the atrocities that the idf has started. they hold all the power in this situation, they have killed many many many more people then Hamas ever could. They have also committed and are committing insane like Nazi level war crimes and all we get is... okay but Hamas bad.

also lets not forget.. most Palestinians didn't even want Hamas. they havent had an actiall election in almost two decades. Because it's literally not safe enough because the idf keeps bombing them.

stop all the back and forth finger pointing, America could pull funding from isreal, instead of this E fleas posturing. If isreal wanted peace then we could hve peace but there will never be peace until the idf stops bombing refugee camps and hospitals lol.

so sick of all this whataboutism, obviously any killing is wrong but Hamas is just a glorified token a red herring being used to justify brutality on a Holocaust level scale. and we need to stop allowing it.

hmmm how do I follow that I'm using the boost app :) thanks!

facts. is there an egg_irl here? I'm new haha