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Sorry for the edited headline but i wanted to communicate the important bit.

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[-] frezik 63 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I mean, they could try. It would toss nitroglycerin into the MAGA rage that's already forming. So yeah, go right ahead.

She could still be subpoena'd by Congress--House Oversight Committee already has--and I don't think she could plead the fifth on anything if she's already pardoned. So yeah, go ahead and do that.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

She could still be subpoena’d by Congress–House Oversight Committee already has–and I don’t think she could plead the fifth on anything if she’s already pardoned. So yeah, go ahead and do that.

I mean I'm all for throwing fuel on the fire, but Congress is such a weak body, where they constantly allow those giving testimony to get a pass while being in effective contempt.

Yes throw fuel on the fire. But there needs to be meat on the menu. Democrats/ Democratic talking heads have tried in engaging in this kind of business before. Look at the Rachel Maddow/ Trump tax return edge fest that should make most ASMR content creators blush. And it went no-where.

Democrats need to not make a show of going after this; they need to actually go after this. No more jerking themselves or the base off. Go for blood with the intent to kill.

[-] frezik 20 points 1 week ago

They won't because there are almost certainly big Democratic donors on that list. And Bill. Both parties slow walked this whole thing for decades.

The AOC and Bernie types don't care about that, but they don't serve on the Oversight Committee. Still, just getting Maxwell there should stoke the fires.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

AOC

We'll see. She made a serious betrayal the other day with her vote on "defensive weapons" for Israel and is not currently meeting the moment.

This might end up being more AIPAC/ Israel controlling the strings than anything else. There is reasonable conjecture that Epstein had ties to Israelli foreign intelligence, so he may have been either leveraged or using his position to gain leverage for Israel. The assumption seems to be that its "only" the US government that has whatever dirt Epstein had collected, well it may not hold.

Lets just say that Israel has copies of some or much of the evidence gathered in the Epstein case, and some of it applies to now living, now in power politicians. This would give them real power over those people, so long as they have the only copy.

If it all comes out, well there goes all that leverage.

[-] teamevil@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

For just 25 dollars they can FLIP the house this time....I hate those emails...its like they won't stand up/fight the Nazis

[-] Zorsith 4 points 1 week ago

I doubt the average MAGA even knows her name or that she is/was involved, or for the sake of misogyny even cares.

[-] frezik 11 points 1 week ago

I checked, and Alex Jones has brought her up. Yes, she is on their radar.

[-] pjwestin@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago

First of all, good to know someone's finally gotten in touch with Chuck Schumer. When you don't hear from someone of his age for this long, you start to worrry.

Second of all, what the hell is he talking about? He's 100% right to call this an, "Epstien Recess," that's accurate and good branding, but why would he be pardoning Maxwell? What would the motive be? "She might talk, so I'm going to pardon her as a bribe, even though that would be incredibly suspicious and unpopular with literally everyone. Also, it wouldn't guarantee she would never talk, and would make it much harder to silence her later." Doesn't seem like a great idea, but maybe I'm missing something.

[-] DogEatWaffle@startrek.website 15 points 1 week ago

Former federal prosecutor and Trump 45 labor secretary, Alex Acosta, offered Epstein a deal in 2007 that promised the feds would not prosecute Epstein or any of his co-conspirators in the future. He also only had to serve 13 months with daily 12-hour work-release... for 40 counts of underage prostitution.

Anyway, current US AG under Trump 47, Pam Bondi, declined to prosecute Epstein under state law the entire time she was Florida AG.

Maxwell's family has said that her ongoing imprisonment violates that 2007 deal. An administration that wasn't compromised by Epstein at every level might say "a-fuck-a-you" but, well...

[-] EffortlessEffluvium@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago

Well, since Jeffrey went and offed himself, he broke the terms of the agreement, didn't he? Escaping the justice system, eh?
Those "co-conspirators" should have chosen a more stand-up guy.

[-] pjwestin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

I just can't see a world where that isn't immediate political suicide for everyone involved. Short of a judge ordering her release, I don't think she's going anywhere.

[-] yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago

Easier to kill her if she’s not in prison maybe.

[-] pjwestin@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Maybe? Seems like it would be easier to do it when she's locked up in a a place full of criminals and murders. Plus, they got Epstien in prison, right? ...haha, just kidding, it was a suicide...maybe.

[-] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Trump doesn’t care if it’s unpopular, he doesn’t need anything from anyone. Everything he does for the remainder of his term will be covered by immunity. He’ll just spend it doing pump and dump schemes, buttoning up the police state for the oligarchs, and hopefully kick the bucket. Gislaine will go into hiding or get merked not long after her release. Clearly there will be no consequences for that either.

[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago

It's much easier to defenestrate her after she's free and abroad. Can't have two of them hung in prison.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 1 week ago

No shit. She's going to absolve Trump of any wrongdoing and they're going to reward her for it.

[-] nickiwest@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Do you think she'll "admit" that she "faked" Trump's contribution to the birthday book?

[-] EarthshipTechIntern01@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Maybe he could form a strongly worded letter about it?

Sack of shit deserves to be tarred & feathered, put in stocks in public square. Along with his maga homies

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 9 points 1 week ago

Do you need more than like, an hour to do that?

[-] ceenote@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Doubtful. They might pardon her, but it won't be for a while. It might be one of Trump's last actions as president.

I wouldn't mind being wrong, it will be very entertaining if they do it sooner.

[-] JeSuisUnHombre@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago

As of right now I think it makes sense to edit an article headline to get to the main point when the real title is trying to be coy like that. Obviously should try to not editorialize, but a lot of headlines really need to cut to the chase instead of being as clickbaity as they are.

[-] Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Which he will reluctantly support.

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

IF that serves the state of Israel. Schumer: “My job is to keep the left pro-Israel.”

[-] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

Lmao no. If it was about pardoning Trump would just do it from the garden, like she's a turkey on Thanksgiving

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