funny how a(n implicitly) rooted linux computer is fine, but a rooted handheld linux computer is the devil and insecure.
If PCs came out today there is no way you would just be allowed to install Linux on it.
New ARM laptops coming out right now have their bootloaders locked. So yeah...
Here is my list of what any device really should have:
If the Operating System don't agree - there MUST be a way to install alternative OS with a SINGLE BUTTON CLICK.
Oh, god. Think of what kind of world that would open up with this simple rule. The device could be a smartphone, Windows machine, termostat, or a dishwasher. Anything would never be obsolete anymore and all users can be happy - a machine obeying the user. Wonderful. Please EU fix this!
What kinda magic fantasyland one button click smartphone dishwasher...
Finally my dishwasher and thermostat can all run templeOS
Stories like this is very much why I severely limit the amount of time I spend on Windows. Having been with Windows nearly since the beginning of its history, it's insane to see the amount of reduction of user control that's gone into it.
One of the most egregious things is the lack of control around updates. Often I'll finish a session with my laptop and go to store it in the bag. Windows will cheerfully inform me that there is a forced update and then I end up having to wait for my machine to finish its shit while I sit around tapping my toes.
Meanwhile, in Linux-land, I have as much control over updates as I wish. I almost breathe a sigh of relief when I reach my Linux desktop, because it's still a place that feels like MINE. I feel like I'm some kind of sharecropper or temporary house guest when on Windows 11. It doesn't feel like "my" environment. It feels like it's Microsoft's computer and they just let me use it occasionally.
For myself, I was lucky(?) enough to have wasted my best years playing with Linux and running Linux boxes is no problem now. For the average Joe that needs to mess with computers, I feel bad for them. Windows 11 feels like shit, MacOS sure isn't great either, and that's pretty much the only choice.
No wonder I'm seeing less and less households with PCs and laptops. I think the average person in 2025 has just given up on computers and makes do with their phone or tablet.
Thank fucking god for Linux, because if I was forced to use Windows 11 full time, I think I'd snap and go live in the middle of the forest or something. It's actively annoying to even look at at this point, and I only see things getting worse. For example, the troubles with Windows "Recall" have barely even started.
I loathe to see what Microsoft has in store for us next, and I would guarantee it's not user friendly.
locked bootloaders and complicated processes to getting phones changed are crimes against humanity layman can't really perceive.
wish i had solutions.
I am an it at a company. Forcing updates is a necessity for some of our users. We have 5 year old phones which have never been updated, and needs to be for their software to work right.
That said what works in consumer space and what works in corporate is two different things. As a consumer I’d hate this and have moved away from preinstalled android years ago. But as IT, this needs to be here.
Ultimately I just think its laziness of the company to either not have a toggle for it. Or have a corporate build for corporate customers
You dont own something unless you install linux on it
this can be easily remedied by killing all of humanity except yourself
Am I the only here that smells bullshit/ragebait? When your phone has the bootloader unlocked and you're rooted, you simply cannot receive official software updates. That only works in custom roms.
EDIT: It seems that for several people this is not the case. Guess I'm wrong then, but personally I've never received software update requests after rooting. Right now in my xperia 5v I literally can't even check to see if there is one. The only way to know is to look up my model in xperifirm.
I have a pixel 4a (yes, ik its eol, i use it more as a backup) that used to be rooted, until i got that shitty battery update, immediately switched to graphene. So yes you do still get updates on rooted
Weird. Also a Pixel4a user (condolences to both of us), but I had LineageOS on mine and was rooted, but I've had no software updates. I get reminders from LineageOS that a new build is available, but I just swipe right because if it ain't broke don't fix
Lineage and graphene don't force updates. They could but that's not their mo. If they did they would presumably lose 90% of their users.
Stock android even if rooted easily can and does force updates.
Why not? I remember buying phones that could be unlocked and had no issues with them updating after doing so.
Same. Why should bootloader unlock stop OTAs? Sure, i dont doubt that some manufacturer somewhere does this, but I would not expect it to be the norm.
Normally that is true but they just forced one on Pixel 6a. I had the same thing happen to me and had to reroot my phone at like 6am before work.
It seems they are being significantly more aggressive about it with their battery failure updates.
sometimes it tries to automatically update, fail and mess up the OS (happened to me with earlier versions of Moto G)
Corporate machines stole my voice that's MY VOICE give it back I have THOUGHTS to say with MY VOICE give me my voice back you ass give it back let me say what I want I need to tell them to fuck off
Where's my Linux phone at?!
yeah, i bet you can ask women who work in the tech industry about their understanding of consent and get some colorful responses.
Win11 When i hit "restart" after work to boot into Linux: "You mean log off ... You wanted the log in screen right?"
I'm still rooted but I'm on android 7 and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one with access. Lol If only I had more money that access would probably be worth more than just amusement.
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