Let's be honest Samwise did most of the work and probably could have got to mount doom quicker without all the extra baggins to carry.
Frodo and Sam is such a great story of the power of friendship and loyalty, why turn them against each other? Sam would not have made it without Frodo any more than Frodo would have made it without Sam.
Even if we must compare, Sam struggled to give the ring back after just a short time carrying it when Shelob paralyzed Frodo. Meanwhile Frodo offered it to Galadriel after owning it for decades, carrying it halfway across Middle Earth, and losing his primary mentor in the endeavor to destroy it. He showed extraordinary strength of will, and ignoring both that and the strength of the friendship he and Sam shared is a dumpster-tier take.
Sam did all the cooking, gathered water, managed supplies, and made sure they didn’t starve.
→ Frodo carried the Ring.
Sam did the emotional heavy liftin and kept Frodo sane, motivated, and moving forward through hopelessness.
→ Frodo carried the Ring. Well sighing dramatically.
Sam did the dirty work of fighting off Gollum more than once, including barehanded wrestling.
→ Frodo carried the Ring. Well whining about how Gollum "gets him".
Sam did the impossible and carried Frodo up the slopes of Mount Doom.
→ Frodo carried the Ring. Barely.
Sam did what no man, elf, or dwarf could. Stabbed Shelob and lived to tell about it.
→ Frodo carried the ring. Got poisoned and swaddled by a spider.
Sam did a solo stealth mission into an Orc-infested tower to rescue Frodo.
→ Frodo carried the ring. Nearly lost the ring and got himself captured.
Sam did the navigation, planning, and kept them alive in Mordor when Frodo could barely crawl.
→ Frodo carried the Ring (while Sam carried Frodo).
Sam did the noble thing and resisted the Ring’s temptation, even when Frodo couldn’t.
→ Frodo carried the ring. Than literally claimed the Ring for himself at the finish line.
Sam did the final act of loyalty and stood by Frodo ready to die, with no thought of glory.
→ Frodo reverted to being useless after he couldn't carry the ring. So he sat there like a broken po-tat-o.
Sam did all of this as a swole gardener and working-class hobbit.
→ Frodo was a rich guy’s spoiled nephew who spent his youth reading poetry and skipping stones at the lake.
Frodo was less "Ring-bearer" and more glorified emotional support backpack with trust issues.
Sam did everything. Frodo just carried the Ring and even that nearly broke him.
If the fate of Middle-earth were an Uber ride, Frodo was the guy crying in the backseat while Sam navigated, paid the tolls, and punched a spider.
Carrying the ring nearly broke him because it was an unbelievably difficult task. If Sam were to have carried the ring he would've been unable to do all the great things he did, and ultimately would have needed Frodo or someone else to do them. And then you'd be sitting here telling us all about how Sam was useless and Frodo (or someone else) did everything.
New copypasta just dropped.
Well we do know that Sam was under the influence of the Ring when he carried it just a little. So if he was the Ringbearer he definitely could cook food and do other stuff to bring the Ring to Sauron.
I'm not belittling the importance of Sam to destroy the Ring, he was absolutely necessary, but even more so was Frodo.
Sounds more like Sam was the ringbearer and Frodo was a magical glove that lessened the rings power over its holder.
You gotta carry a hot piece of iron across the country, you cant hold it with your hands so you use tongs. Both are equally important.
Both were required for the task. Both were equally valuable for the task. At least that's what I took from lotr. Maybe one could argue Sam was replaceable while Frodo was not but that's speculative at best.. we just cant know if anyone else could do what Sam did.
Yes but they were also closer to Barad-Dûr when Sam had the ring but also Sauron's powers were stronger.
But you're right : none would have made it without the other one.
However, Frodo did not destroy the one ring. Smeagol did. We could even argue that the ring destroyed itself. But Frodo did no such thing : he only carried the ring to Mt Doom.
I never claimed Frodo destroyed the ring. According to Tolkien, Eru Illuvitar destroyed it by tripping Smeagol in Mt Doom. More to the point though, that would've been impossible if Frodo, Sam, and the rest of the fellowship (along with probably thousands of other background contributors) had not done their part. Working together to overcome a great foe is fundamental to the story itself which is why the "Sam did everything" interpretation is so infuriating.
Baggins's*
Is this Andy Serkis in a mocap suit?
Yes
And let's be honest, ~~Smeagol~~ Gollum destroyed the Ring. Frodo failed 😐
Not just any Nazgûl, Merry. The Witch-King of Angmar.
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He persuaded the tree beard to destroy Saruman base, that’s huge
And he lit the beacons to bring Rohan to Pelenor Fields, without which Minas Tirith would have fallen
Only in the movies, though.
Tricked
Frodo didn't destroy the One Ring, though. Gollum did that accidentally.
He delivered the goods. Gig work is real work.
One Took to teamkill them all.
when did pippen kill ...anything?
with his singing?
or his constant bickering for food and weed?
orrr are we attributing Gandalf the Grey's fall with durins bane due to pippen shoving the armor down the well?
are we attributing Gandalf the Grey’s fall with durins bane due to pippen shoving the armor down the well?
That is exactly what we are doing :)
He kills a goddamn troll in the battle outside the Black Gate!
But yes the meme is definitely referring to Moria
The Chief troll too.
The books are so good in comparison.
I really like some the changes the films made to Pippin's story. Successfully tricking Treebeard into seeing the true scale of what Saruman had done is in keeping with his character from earlier in the story, but still a big step for him to take in terms of thinking things through and also a huge contribution to the overall battle. Sneaking up to light the beacons of Gondor is cool too, and reflects Bilbo in the Hobbit to a degree
ah, I haven't read LOTR in an age, so I hadn't thought of that.
Just re-read it and the hobbit, still good stuff.
What's the first image? I can't remember how ROTK portrays the hobbits' return to the Shire, other than general disappointment, but this looks a little like they might have filmed the Scouring of the Shire and then scrapped it.
I can't find anything solid, but old posts of it seem to consistently say it's just a promo photo. They are wearing these costumes for a brief shot upon them first riding back into the Shire
The film (including the extended edition) cuts the Scouring altogether. I personally think it was the right choice for the film, which already feels a bit like it ends several times. Great addition to the book for how it shows the change the journey has made on the characters, but a sensible change when adapting to another medium in my opinion
It bothers me that only the last one is in 3rd person. I don’t even watch lotr
I was trying to work out what you meant by this. The last frame is a continuation of the comment above the 4th hobbit.
Ooos I’m dumb. In my defense, all the characters kinda look the same
One does not simply...
