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Professor's got it right (lemmy.blahaj.zone)
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[-] medgremlin@midwest.social 27 points 6 days ago

I wish this is how it was at my medical school. My med school is attached to a deeply religious university and some of our professors said some pretty wild shit in lectures. I was almost always the one to key up on the mic in recorded lectures to fight them on it.

I'm sad to say there were a couple lectures that I was just too demoralized to fight back directly, but I did talk to my classmates to correct the record after those lectures.

[-] Bubbey@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Deeply religious and... Medical School feels like two things that should be separate lol. Wouldn't the solution for Cardiac Ataxia be to pray it away in their eyes?

[-] medgremlin@midwest.social 1 points 3 days ago

It is an actual, accredited medical school and we still take the same board exams. The subjects where the religiosity shows the most are the ethics classes, abortion, and LGBTQ+ healthcare. Otherwise, the most prominent manifestation was prayer at the start of lectures and exams.

[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

This is almost assuredly a false narrative being introduced to make it seem like professors and schools are having to deal with some "flood of LGBTQ+ patients" who the new healthcare professionals suddenly have to deal with.

Just because the message seems positive, doesn't mean it's serving positive goals.

[-] bier@feddit.nl 6 points 6 days ago

When I go to a hospital I really hope the doctor is fully focused on getting me better, not my gender, looks, or whether or not I'd like to suck dick.

[-] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

what goal does it serve in your opinion?

[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Normalizes the notion that it's normal at all to say things like "What if we don't feel comfortable around X" when most of liberal America is fine or uncaring at worst. Of course a professor will dismiss the question, it shouldn't be seen as something exceptional, it's not heroic to tell an idiot to shut up. It's continuing the atomization of ideologies. I don't even care if it's something that really happened, this kind of shit is used by both sides to ramp up hysteria. But I guess that ship has long since sailed.

If you haven't spent time actively reading and understanding how the right thinks, talks and shares with each other in their own online spaces, you will think it's ridiculous, so I don't know why I tried to pass the message along here in these very sheltered communities. Maybe it will give someone something to think about.

[-] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

I mean it is normal to want to discuss anything. I think one of the main problems of today is actually we can't discuss anything for more than five minutes before someone gets lynched. But that is also because there are so many people that "discuss" stuff in bad faith that everyone else has probably lost faith in discussions.

On the issue of hysteria and normalizing stuff, in the span of a six months the US degraded from being the center of many branches of science and tech to a country that redacts its articles to censor words like transmission (because it contains trans, yea) and gender. I don't think you can call it hysteria when it is really happening and has become the new normal.

"you will think it's ridiculous"

I will think what is ridiculous? This event described in the meme? I find it worrying that someone gets so uncomfortable that he or she can't treat a person based on their sexual and or gender orientation. On the other hand everyone has their limits and being a doctor is hard and perhaps it really is not for that person or he or she can't deal with this. And this goes for both sides. You may be very liberally minded doctor but what happens when a wounded person they bring to the hospital turns out to be someone who raped a child? It is fucking brutal. If you can't even make it past sexual orientation, how the fuck are you going to deal with such stuff?

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

It's interesting that no one wants to deny medical care for:

  • murderers
  • pedophiles
  • thieves
  • corrupt politicians
[-] rayyy@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Did they discussed treating an old orange pedophile?

[-] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 307 points 1 week ago

I never will understand how somebody gets into any facet of medicine (e.g. nurse, doctor, pharmacist) and find it okay to deny anybody healthcare solely based on how the person lives. Like dude, there are better ways to make money and be a bigot at the same time. Insurance CEO comes to mind. Cannon fodder as well.

[-] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 119 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Because nursing school will shove you through even if you should fail and it's an affordable 2 year degree that pays. And that's how I ended up explaining what the P in HIPAA stands for and how to operate a mask. White trash nurses are a meme.

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[-] x4740N@lemmy.world 189 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The absolute gall they have to call it a "lifestyle" like people choose to live that way one day

It's not a fucking lifestyle, LGBTQ+ people just are and they exist

They don't choose to suddenly be that way one day, they have been that way their entire life and discover that about themselves

[-] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 103 points 1 week ago

"Ah, but they choose to act on it! You see, my old preacher struggled with gay thoughts all the time because of Satan. He told us so nearly every Sunday. But did he act on them? No! He was straight, just as god intended.

So those people having gay thoughts are CHOOSING to be gay when they could pray and get a wife and have children like the lord said."

-Some dipshit I know

[-] juliebean@lemmy.zip 78 points 1 week ago

"He resisted his homosexual urges, and remained faithful to his heterosexual wife until the very day he shot himself."

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[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 147 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"I refuse to treat left handed people. It's a lifestyle I don't agree with."

[-] DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz 69 points 1 week ago

This was or maybe even still is a thing. My grandpa was forced to wear a sock on his left hand when learning to write as a child. He would be hit if he didn't.

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[-] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 99 points 1 week ago

"Is this career path okay with discrimination? Because I have groups I want to die."

[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I don't trust anything about this... meme? I don't know what we call context-less clips of other people's comments that get circulated.

Whatever it is, it is trying to sound positive but it's implying some false narratives. It's implying that this is a common or new issue that professors are always dealing with, that there's some common wave of pushback against treating LGBTQ patients. If you're studying to be a doctor or healthcare professional, most likely you already don't give half a fuck about someone's gender identity or sexuality unless it impacts their treatment. (Yes there are some bigoted healthcare professionals out there, but they're not the norm.)

The narrative here is making it seem like poor, naive students are now suddenly worried about how they're going to deal with all these trans and gay people flooding the healthcare industry.

If it's not subtly trying to introduce a false narrative like this, it's serving that purpose all the same and should be buried and not circulated any further.

[-] medgremlin@midwest.social 6 points 6 days ago

As someone who attends a medical school attached to a religious university, I can tell you this is a mindset that exists quite commonly in the medical field. Many of these people get careers in the multitudes of Catholic hospitals that abuse religious freedom laws to deny certain kinds of healthcare and face absolutely no repercussions for their persistent bigotry.

[-] EldritchFeminity 1 points 6 days ago

Medical malpractice is a huge issue for LGBT people - especially trans people who require specific care and are therefore much easier to spot. It's honestly a big issue in the sciences in general, and it's definitely not a new issue, but more likely against specific groups. Women are much more likely to have to be their own advocates to get proper care, often being denied pain medication, told that they're just making up their symptoms, or having their agency denied or choice of treatment being deferred to their husbands (generally when it comes to things that might affect sex, such as surgeries to constrict the vagina after giving birth or having their uterus removed due to medical issues).

And it's not just that trans people often have to understand HRT at a doctorate level in order to fight for their right to the proper care and treatment that they deserve. I have read plenty of stories of trans people being denied care by bigoted healthcare workers - even a case of a woman in New York who only found out she had an aggressive form of cancer after the technician who diagnosed her tests called her to ask her how her chemo was going. Her doctor simply never told her the diagnosis and the only reason that she's still alive is because of that technician who made sure that she got proper treatment after the shock of hearing that she didn't even know that she had cancer.

Bias affects medicine all the way up the chain, from how nurses treat you to what gets taught in schools and even what fields get research funding. I taught my therapist pretty much everything he knows about transgender people, for example - because he's older and they didn't teach about trans people. And I have no qualifications in the field other than being trans and therefore having to teach myself to ensure I get proper care. Many doctors don't know about trans specific medical care despite HRT starting to be researched in the 1920s in Germany (and only reappearing at the end of the 20th century after the Nazis burnt all the research). The medical field is taught based on the white body of a specific weight, which leaves out the differences in care that black people and people above or below that weight require. We only really started looking into what exactly female ejaculate is in the past 30 years or so. AIDS research was denied funding by the US government for at least a year while roughly 120 Americans died of AIDS every day, during which time all bottled medication was pulled from stores and the safety seal was developed and implemented over the course of 3 months because somebody poisoned a couple of bottles of Advil with cyanide.

It's not a new issue, but it's become more prevalent in recent years as people like the student above have become emboldened by recent events - like the rulings that say that doctors don't have to treat certain people if it would "violate their religious beliefs."

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[-] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 71 points 1 week ago

What I always find funny about this is, back when I used to do IT, if I refused to do something for someone who had bible verses on their office wall or a cross necklace I would be the one fired.

[-] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 70 points 1 week ago

In many countries it's illegal to refuse treatment so you would literally have to find a new career

[-] aeternum 7 points 6 days ago

it's also against their Hippocratic oath.

[-] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 54 points 1 week ago

But of course in the Christian-sharia-law state of Tennessee, doctors can refuse patients if they don’t fit their values or whatever. A woman was refused prenatal care because she wasn’t married.

[-] iridebikes@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago

This type of stuff is extremely concerning to me. My ability to get life saving medical treatment is based on the whimsy of some superficial judgment some random doctor makes about me? There is no way this can be legal.

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 days ago

Hey now take comfort in the fact that their lives are in the hands of God. Pfft nah it's in the hands of anyone willing to shank them for being a sanctimonious self righteous profligate. Frankly speaking if someone nearly died or dies because of such a scenario where they denied IDK sutures or some shit for religious reasons they wholly deserve to be processed through a morgue incinerator while still alive.

[-] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 68 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I mean, this is correct. You take the oath, you have to live up to it. You will be treating people you don't agree with, and you have to square up with that, or your rep will take a dive.

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[-] DandomRude@lemmy.world 65 points 1 week ago

A friend of mine is a devout Muslim from a very conservative family and a doctor: he believes that his faith has no place in his job and therefore treats all his patients equally.

I think fundamentalists of all religions should take a leaf out of his book.

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[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 58 points 1 week ago

Someone being LGBT doesn't mean McDonald's is allowed to refuse them service, or ESSO is allowed to refuse to sell them gas, or a gym can refuse them membership. Why the fuck do you think a doctor should be allowed to refuse them treatment for a disease?

[-] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 57 points 1 week ago

Someone being LGBT doesn’t mean McDonald’s is allowed to refuse them service, or ESSO is allowed to refuse to sell them gas, or a gym can refuse them membership.

Patience, patience ... the GOP is working on this as well.

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[-] Krudler@lemmy.world 58 points 1 week ago

This would never fly in today's era. Nor should it.

But about two decades ago I dated a gastroenterologist... I think she had around 13 years of schooling.

Anyways, her first day of med school, they made the entire class watch gay porn. Like vicious, graphic, excessively graphic gay porn.

With of course the professor saying if this makes you uncomfortable, you'd best find a new track. Because you ain't going to make it, this is going to be your life: assholes, boils, pus, cancer, shit, piss, if you're going to be a gastroenterologist you're going to have your head up people's asses your whole career....

Etc

[-] prole 4 points 6 days ago

This would never fly in today’s era. Nor should it.

I believe we already have individual states that allow health care providers to refuse care based on their religious beliefs.

So unfortunately, it seems to be flying alright.

[-] vithigar@lemmy.ca 8 points 6 days ago

Pretty sure they were speaking in reference to the anecdote they were about to relay.

[-] BreadOven@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Wonder if there were any jars involved......that would be a pretty unfortunate situation.

[-] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 49 points 1 week ago

And then there were those who got a rock-hard boner and wondered for a completely different reason if this career was for them.

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[-] billwashere@lemmy.world 45 points 1 week ago

Damn straight. Same thing for pharmacists or any other health official.

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