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If you're asked the identify the shooter, remember: You don't have to.
Watch them imprison the shooter and let go the driver because car drivers could never do any wrong.
Car-centric culture really is fascinating, isn't it? In a sad, morbid kind of way
Tha fuck? 🤣
Acts of violence with cars are notoriously underpunished. Some bullshit about the unrealized power and semi-autonomy of a vehicle in motion
You also don’t have to shoot bad people in the back who are already overpowered, beaten up and pinned down by other people. It does not sound like this was a justified self-defense shooting, and I wouldn’t want a trigger happy gun owner like that on the loose in my neighborhood.
Law enforcement has created an environment where people don't trust The System. It shouldn't be surprising when people when people take justice into their own hands.
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Gee, it almost makes a person feel sorry for the guy who plowed his car into a crowd of 30 people, (edit: nearly) killing several…
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It's possible for both of those people to have done something bad.
Sure, but I object to portraying the person who plowed a car into a crowd of people as any kind of victim.
I never said that the perpetrator is a victim! I said, I would not want the guy who shoots someone who is already pinned down and no longer a threat in revenge to own a gun.
It’s happened time and time again that crowds identified and attacked the wrong person in the immediate aftermath of such attacks.
If he is no longer a threat let law enforcement take over and don’t play judge and executioner - that is all I am saying.
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It is also possible for someone who has done something bad to be the victim of something else that is bad.
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Why, are you planning on ramming a car into dozens of people?
Besides, we've seen that taking the high road doesn't work.
It's not a choice I'd make, but I'm not going to feel bad for the guy who got shot, or worry about the shooter overmuch. Like the dude will probably get caught and prosecuted but if they investigated, found no history of violence, and decided not to prosecute (unlikely), I'd shrug and not give it a second thought.
I never said I feed bad for they guy who got shot, he obviously did a despicable act and deserves everything the law has coming for him and using deadly force to stop him was also justified. What is not justified is using deadly force in revenge when the situation is already under control, that’s lawless behavior and I don’t want anyone who thinks they can randomly decide to play judge and executioner to own a gun, sorry.
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The guy just tried to kill a dozen people in a drunken rage and you think he should get a pass because the crowd caught him?
Fucker is lucky he wasn't physically pulled into pieces.
A bullet hole is the least of his worries right now.
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You do have a point there, but it remains to be seen what the chain of events is. All the police have released is that he was shot after leaving the vehicle, it could have been after he was on the ground or it could have been right away, after the driver showed his own weapon.
Even after we find out all of that, the local DA would have to decide whether he could convince 12 people on a local jury that the guy was somehow negligent. I bet any defense attorney would be able to plant enough doubt in any jury's mind to get the guy off.
Yeah, the police are going to want to find the guy and talk to him, but I doubt he faces any charges unless some obvious new fact comes out that changes the story dramatically.
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So a man injured several people in a mass attack with a deadly weapon, then bystanders rushed in to stop the man by using another deadly weapon. I’m sure the conservatives won’t have any problem with this, since this is exactly what they say should be done in that scenario.
They only like 'other' people to be attached by deadly weapons. They will at best, be indifferent because they themselves weren't being attacked.
They didn't dig it when the Black Panthers started arming themselves.
Funny how I got a New York Times breaking news ™ alert when one Zionist got punched in the face in Colorado a few months ago, but complete radio silence from them about this massive terroirs attack.
There is a crazy amount of news, both local and otherwise, that the media does not report on. I had no idea just how much until I started working with first responders. That gave me the opportunity to see and hear what actually goes on. There are way more shootings in most large towns and cities than its residents realize. More overdoses, more fires, a crazy number of larceny and breaking and entering calls. A LOT is kept quiet. A few years back, a guy got caught near here with a car trunk full of bombs. He only got caught because the idiot got the car repossessed for non-payment. Not one peep about it in the media.
And honestly that's a good thing. We don't need news hyping every minor crime like Fox News, trying to make you feel unsafe all the time.
I agree that there’s too much violence to cover but Im just pointing out that the New York Times is extremely biased and pro-Israel in their coverage.
Police ask anyone with information about the shooter to get in touch.
I'm ready to come forward. It was Elon Musk.
Using a car as a weapon is disturbingly, horrifically romanticized in the minds of a certain subset of Americans.
Regardless of the driver being shot, I'm actually glad there's a headline of someone driving into a crowd getting pulled out of their car and getting their ass beat. Fuckwads like that need to know they're gonna get fucked up real bad if they try that shit.
Alcohol is legal while pot isn't. And I can't have refills on my sons perscription, or fill it more than 3 days early because someone might "abuse" it. Not supporting an action, just pointing out the absurdity.
Pot is entirely legal in CA. Stoners are some of the most cautious and calm drivers on the road anymore.
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Cannabis is perfectly legal in California and has been for some time.
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Not sure what your son takes but when it comes to people freaking out on alcohol, some prescriptions like Xanax have a tendency to make people act worse. I think it's because people get intoxicated quicker and their brains are like where the fuck am I so they have a tendency to freak out easier. Kind of like a bad trip I guess. I imagine Xanax, Meth, and Alcohol put your odds of something shitty happening at around 1 in 5.
But on the other hand, it's dumb that you should struggle to pick up medications. Most of our medical field needs to be re-assessed.
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Sgt. Travis Ward said the driver was shot after the collision, transported to the hospital and taken into surgery. For that reason, he said, police were unable to determine whether he was intoxicated.
Nah. They could have requested a warrant for a blood test while he was in the hospital if they wanted to.
Doctors tend not to withdraw blood from people with gunshot wounds. Generally they put blood and other fluids into them.
"Nurse, please wring out this blood soaked cloth for the police."
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Police said they arrested the driver, Fernando Ramirez, 29, who was charged with assault with a deadly weapon. He is currently hospitalized and has not been booked into jail, the LAPD said. His condition was not immediately known.
Cars are ridiculously dangerous. I don’t think we realize what huge weapons they are.
IMO, they are far more dangerous than guns. A gun is designed to be used by people who want to live: it takes genuine effort and money to make most shots count.
A car is far deadlier, provided you don't care about what happens to it. Someone who wants to kill many people on the way out, simply needs to rent a heavy truck on a crowded day and have a lead foot.
It's almost like we need to rethink our urban planning so crowds of people and speeding cars can't meet. Making cities more walkable than drivable has a lot of upsides including this one. Iirc Germany where these attacks occured a couple of times started to place speedbumps around huge public festivals, but that's a half-step where the complete eradication is possible once the street or square is up to scheduled reconstruction.
GTA games showcase this perfectly.
Anyone that took drivers education seriously realizes that.
....... Try that shit in a small town?
Don’t do revenge kills, hit em, make them unconscious, pin them down, but don’t revenge kill. It just makes everything worse. Especially for the revenge-killer; there’s a reason why most kill themself after such an act.
It's quite remarkable that nobody died actually.
That doesn't look like the car I was expecting.
This is such an American headline
There’s a lot on back in that one headline
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